(29-01-2013, 11:16 PM)touzi Wrote: [ -> ] (29-01-2013, 08:17 PM)arthur Wrote: [ -> ]And when you extraplolate this to year 2080, NO native Singaporeans left behind? Is this what we want?
Think carefully exactly what you want...
Err..how did you extrapolate? I would think that if we succeed to bring the population to 6.9 Million by 2030 with the help of immigration, 50 years down the road we should have a strong core of at least second generation Singaporeans!
I am second generation Singaporean. I hope I qualify as a native Singaporean by your book.
You should try to extrapolate the other way - no immigration - and see where it leads to eventually. There are many investment experts here, so I am sure the power of compounding is well understood. This is like "reverse compounding".
BTW, having a 6.9 million population may also mean more political choices. Native Singaporeans' wish for a 2 party parliament may be fully realized with a bigger population. You know...WP and NSP dominating parliament. No more PAP by then.
I think I might need to clarify.
No I do not think having foreigners migrants is a big no-no.
Rather (you may choose to agree with me or not) we seek migrants who are:
1. Able to assimilate into our culture and way of lives.
2. Not selective using only ONE parent as citizen while the other as PR so as to take advantage of our subsidized housing for commoners.
3. Sending their sons off back to other countries when the call up age for NS is near, citing a lot of cock and bull stories. What's worse, the parents are still allowed to continue working here.
4. Capable in their fields and not because their kampong cousins are already managers here so it's a hiring through connection. The government has it's fair share to be blame on such easy hiring policies as well.
I am not against total blanket cut off of migrants. What is needed is a consultative, true consultative attitude of the government towards its electorate, us citizens.
I fully recognized the limits of our citizens birth ratio but as some forumers had pointed out, solving the declining ratio with a easy fix solution rather than encouraging local births rate through high subsidies is what the current government is doing.
End of the day, recognising a problem, facing the problem reality AND solving the problem are all VERY different sides of a coin.
I believe all of us here are smart people, else we won't be prodding into a forum looking for ways to increase our investment returns.
And we all definitely can recognize the existence of a declining birth ratio. It's the solution imposed that is very draconian and smack of no questions asked.
Anyway, this thread isn't the one that is blowing up with the 7mil pop criticism. Many more forums are having a field of a day today and probably the whole of this week.
Government has always view us as Internet warriors. End of day, we do provide a grassroot service feedback to government on their policies.
By the way, the first generation of new citizens may cast their gratitude votes to PAP, but the 2nd gen would definitely has same mindset as us currently.
In the end, we may end up having many more disgruntled voters and a top-heavy political party PAP without any knowledge how to solve issues because it's previous solution of continuation of political stranglehold and increasing GDP is smply importing migrants.
This is WHEN the leadership of the nation would be tested. And I can't see us escaping anymore the effects of migrants importation.