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You guys really must watch this.

I wish there are more people like this that talk sense in the European parliament and tell the banks private bondholders to freaking take the hit and accept the losses!

The reason why we keep on getting an annual European country bailout event is precisely those private bondholders refuse to take a hit and governments have been printing increasing more money just to hold the lifeboat up.

And it will end badly.

US. The Dow has reached our double top target. There is a possible wedge in pink. But I don't give it much credence. It's too long in time to be reliable. However, the trend is still down. The best case scenario would be that the Dow moves in a range for a couple of months between 12,000 and 12,700. The worst case is a fall to support at around 11,000. A new low, below 12,000, would suggest that the worst is yet to come.

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There's a bit of good news or rather something different that will happen in later months.

If you haven't heard right now there is a change in leadership due to take place in China. In the later part of this year President Hu Jin Tao is due to step down and Xi Jin Ping is speculated as his possible successor.

Bearing in mind much of central china remains largely undeveloped as compared to coastal cities and about 400 million people in central china haven't yet tasted or seen china's miracle. So with new leadership usually comes new vision and many are saying the new President's vision could be based on development of central China.

With this I am rather bullish on various China consumer related stocks which have been beaten down not only in the recent month but also for quite a while already but still agree the need to be cautious and selective.

Also I'm bullish of mining stocks like coal, energy also minerals for long term as any development will require all these things.
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(14-06-2012, 05:46 PM)sgd Wrote: [ -> ]There's a bit of good news or rather something different that will happen in later months.

If you haven't heard right now there is a change in leadership due to take place in China. In the later part of this year President Hu Jin Tao is due to step down and Xi Jin Ping is speculated as his possible successor.

Bearing in mind much of central china remains largely undeveloped as compared to coastal cities and about 400 million people in central china haven't yet tasted or seen china's miracle. So with new leadership usually comes new vision and many are saying the new President's vision could be based on development of central China.

With this I am rather bullish on various China consumer related stocks which have been beaten down not only in the recent month but also for quite a while already but still agree the need to be cautious and selective.

Also I'm bullish of mining stocks like coal, energy also minerals for long term as any development will require all these things.
(15-06-2012, 01:33 PM)Behappyalways Wrote: [ -> ]http://icapital.biz/lib/viewvideo.asp?id=69&lang=en
Ahhh i remember Tan Teng Boo. Mid last year i remember they were holding lotsa cash. I wonder if they still hold on to huge amt of cash.
And then there were five: Cyprus seeks EU aid

By Michele Kambas and Harry Papachristou

NICOSIA/ATHENS | Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:03pm EDT

(Reuters) - A fifth euro-zone country turned to Brussels for emergency funding on Monday when Cyprus announced it was seeking a lifeline for its banks and its budget, hours after Spain submitted a formal request to bail out its banks.

Global share prices and the euro slid as investors bet that European leaders - due to meet this week for the 20th time since the currency zone's debt crisis hit Greece in 2010 - would fail to come up with radical measures to back up weak countries.

Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel dashed any hope that Berlin would allow joint bonds issued by the euro zone or other measures sought by partners.

Cyprus joins Greece, Ireland, Portugal and Spain in seeking EU rescue funds, meaning more than a quarter of the 17 euro zone members are now in the bloc's emergency ward. Italy's funding costs have soared too, which means it could be next.

Spain formally submitted its request for up to 100 billion euros of funds to bail out its banks, agreed on June 9.

Moody's Investors Service cut the ratings of 28 out of 33 rated Spanish banks by one to four notches in a decision announced late Monday afternoon in New York. Those downgrades followed a cut of Spain's sovereign rating to just above junk status earlier this month.

Tiny Cyprus has just four days to raise at least 1.8 billion euros - equivalent to about 10 percent of its domestic output - to meet a deadline set by European regulators to recapitalize Cyprus Popular Bank, its second largest lender which saw its balance sheet hurt by bad Greek debt.

Finance Minister Vassos Shiarly said the country would also seek enough money to help with its budget deficit. The full amount would be decided over the course of weeks.

"The amount will be as much as it may be needed to cover the recapitalization and fiscal requirements," he told Reuters.

With its coffers emptying rapidly and hurtling towards an immovable deadline, Cyprus suffered a further sovereign credit rating cut on Monday by Fitch, to the junk BB+ grade. It is already shut out from raising new funds on capital markets, with yields on existing bonds well into double digits.

HEAVY EXPOSURE TO GREECE

An island with just 1 million residents, Cyprus has a disproportionately large financial sector that is heavily exposed to Greece, a neighbor more than 10 times the size with which it shares a language, culture and close political links.

It received 2.5 billion euros in a loan from Russia last year and has been scrambling for funding from Moscow or Beijing to avoid the terms Brussels imposes in return for EU bailouts.

Jean-Claude Juncker, head of the Eurogroup of euro zone leaders, said Cyprus would have to negotiate aid conditions with the EU and European Central Bank.

"This will include measures that will address the main challenges of the Cyprus economy, primarily those of the financial sector, and I expect that Cyprus will engage with strong determination in the required policy actions," he said.

Greece, which brought the euro zone back from the brink of breaking up by electing a government this month committed to implementing its 130 billion euro bailout program, was also thrown into confusion on Monday when its new finance minister, Vassilis Rapanos was forced to resign due to ill health.

Newly elected Prime Minister Antonis Samaras, who wants to win easier terms from the EU for the bailout, will also miss the European summit because of an eye operation.

A visit by "troika" inspectors representing Greece's international creditors - the EU, European Central Bank and IMF - which was due this week has been postponed.

A German spokesman said no decisions would be taken on Greece at the two-day Brussels summit which starts on Thursday.

SUMMIT SKEPTICISM

Leaders will discuss a cross-border banking union, closer fiscal integration and a possible debt redemption fund.

But Merkel, who leads Europe's biggest economy and the main contributor to its rescue funds, said sharing debt liability within the 17-nation euro area would be "economically wrong and counterproductive".

France, Italy and Spain have pushed hard for steps towards mutualising debts and liabilities through a joint bank deposit guarantee, a common bank resolution fund and issuing common euro zone bonds. The conservative German leader adamantly rejects such ideas and is keen to squelch them before the meeting.

"When I think of the summit I feel concerned that yet again we will have too much focus on all kinds of ways of sharing debt," Merkel told a conference in Berlin.

Critics say that by refusing any such collective solutions, Berlin risks unleashing speculative attacks on Spanish and Italian bonds, hastening possible future bailout requests which the euro zone's rescue funds are too small to manage.

Spanish and Italian bond yields rose on Monday as doubts spread that the EU summit would take decisive action. Investors sought shelter in U.S. government debt.

Spanish Economy Minister Luis de Guindos asked for up to 100 billion euros ($125 billion) in a letter to Juncker, saying the final amount of assistance would be set at a later stage.

The letter formalizes Spain's request for the bailout, agreed on June 9, and confirmed its intention to sign a Memorandum of Understanding by July 9. He said the amount should cover all banks' needs, plus a buffer.

The EU's top economic official, Olli Rehn, said a deal on terms for the loan from Europe's bailout funds could be concluded within weeks and would include reforms of the financial sector.

The rescue is intended to help Spanish lenders recover from the effects of a burst real estate bubble and a recession, which have piled up bad loans and sinking property portfolios.

Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy told business leaders he would soon take new measures to revive economic growth and create jobs. He gave no details but said the government remained committed to cutting the public deficit.

Two independent audits last week put the Spanish banks' capital needs at up to 62 billion euros.

Some economists believe the rescue is merely a prelude to a full bailout for the Spanish state, which saw its borrowing costs soar to euro era record levels above 7 percent early last week, although they later eased.

A working document prepared by top EU officials calls for the gradual introduction of a banking union, starting with supervisory power for the European Central Bank and developing a deposit guarantee scheme based on pooling national systems, with a levy-funded bank resolution fund.

Berlin has so far rejected any joint deposit guarantee or resolution fund, as well as proposals that euro zone governments should assume joint liability for each other's debts.

Merkel and French President Francois Hollande, whose relationship is testy, will have one more try at narrowing their differences before the summit on Thursday and Friday.

The German leader has shown no sign of relenting in her refusal to take on new liabilities for German taxpayers until other euro zone states agree to hand more sovereignty over national budgets and economic policies to EU institutions.

(Additional reporting by Michelle Martin and Stephen Brown in Berlin, Catherine Bremer in Paris, Fiona Ortiz and Julien Toyer in Madrid, Luke Baker and Jan Strupczewski in Brussels and Karolina Tagaris in Athens; Writing by Peter Graff and Paul Taylor; Editing by Philippa Fletcher and Jan Paschal)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/2...CS20120626
Venus retrograde almost over.....time to come out to play?????

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Soros is watching how EU is evolving into banana money. Germany has been thru the same route before and will NOT take the chance of further integration without southern states taking the austerity to cripple all the BANKING mess.

Virtually, all the central bankers in the world have surrendered their monetary policy to aid the banks and the market for bond is weight down by central bankers initiatives. on 1 side the european bond feeding fear of constant default and the US treasuries on the other hand is buying massively to force interest rate down, pushing investors to look for yield (like myself). Every other day is bad news followed by patch work measures of past bubbles.

Many of us here has been reduced to protecting our status quo with bank interest being so low and inflation fanning as a result of central bankers over deflating bond yield. Commodities cycle are now occasionally driven by weather pattern and geopolitics, after going thru bouts of speculation of BRICs consumption demand. It is primarily a function of currency and commodity swing. High USD low commodities price and weak exchange rate viz USD.

We now face a depreciation of the BRIC currency. Look at India, they got growth but with inflation higher than growth its currency took a hit of -20%, effectively investor lost confidence in the central bank! Look at Brazil, currency weakness is almost same as the anemic growth pattern.

At a micro level, we lost out to inflation if we had not invested in property anywhere in Asia 3yrs back in 2009. The smart money that capitalize on property using low interest rate are still holding on to the asset bubble if you can call it asset bubble as long as growth can sustain the employment that pays the rental yield and feed the mortgage payment.

So, where is the opportunity when yield compression is a permanent, fear of central banker failing in growth/job creation, faced with constant bombardment of bank failures. Where will our money feel most comfortable.

Good corporation ring fence their risk of central bankers, pay a good dividend to sharehldrs and continue to drive growth with focus on executing and aligning their daily operation to achieving the long term target. We need to stay on with this type of Co. and make the most of it if we believe the equity cycle is now at the right valuation.

Recently, seekingalpha article on crowded trade in Co. such as Philip Morris and Alteria shows that such Co. have also become a risk to buy at such valuation due to its low yield valuation which is 2 standard deviation out of the mean.

Clearly, if we are to invest outside Spore might as well stick with our local Co. that Bloomberg today mentioned that Asia is now looking cheap, regardless what the central bankers does.

1 thing about this crisis is that its going to be here for a long time and the market swing is a permanent thing, we just got to make sure the Co. we invest in the directors are also financially sound. By that I mean he does not over commit himself, at the risk of being forced by bankers to liquidate his shares in the Co. we invest in! It happens in the last crisis and now we are not seeing it happening.

There are things we know and there risk we will never know until it happens so make sure your portfolio is evenly spread out to survive.
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