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		 (15-06-2014, 09:31 AM)egghead Wrote:  Just read the paper this morning.  This lady lives in a landed property lah.  I trust that she will get the help she deserves. 
PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ...
 
Otherwise go borrow from their siblings and friends ... 
They will only step in when all their friends and relatives died ...
 
That was the response many years ago from the grassroots under 
George Yeo when my bankrupted friend approached PAP for help 
when she collapsed with acute leukemia ...
 
This is the HARD truth or HEART truth ... The grassroots response were exactly 
like the ugly, disgusting old woman sitting at the front ... 
 
Not long after that, George Yeo and his team were kicked out after 
they lost in the election ... It was the first GRC to be lost to an opposition 
party in Singapore history ...
 
God bless my friend, He sent a God fearing family to pay for all her  
medical expenses until now ...
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		15-06-2014, 10:43 AM 
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		 (15-06-2014, 10:29 AM)Zelphon Wrote:  PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ... 
 
Otherwise go borrow from their siblings and friends ... 
They will only step in when all their friends and relatives died ... 
 
That was the response many years ago from the grassroots under 
George Yeo when my bankrupted friend approached PAP for help 
when she collapsed with acute leukemia ... 
 
This is the HARD truth or HEART truth ... The grassroots response were exactly 
like the ugly, disgusting old woman sitting at the front ...  
 
Not long after that, George Yeo and his team were kicked out after 
they lost in the election ... It was the first GRC to be lost to an opposition 
party in Singapore history ... 
 
God bless my friend, He sent a God fearing family to pay for all her  
medical expenses until now ... 
Thanks Zelphon for sharing your friend stories.
 
Behind every G policies, there will always be cracks and people who benefited and suffers.
 
I felt for the poor and sick people who are not able to fence for themselves too.
 
They are definitely the kind of people that we expects our G to protect in the first place.
 
It is the G job to reach out to those needy that's bed-ridden or not able to step out of their home.
 
No doubt about that.
 
As a Singaporean or even foreigner in SGP, if you had encounter these needy, please step up and help them connect to the G too.
 
I reminded myself, that we had a lots of want. 
But our need is very little.
 
Like MP ChanCS answer on a question raise during election campaign: 
One at a time.
   Love Compassion 
Without LOVE, We will die.
 
Earth day - save the world everyday.
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		15-06-2014, 10:49 AM 
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		 (15-06-2014, 10:43 AM)chialc88 Wrote:   (15-06-2014, 10:29 AM)Zelphon Wrote:  PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ... 
 
Otherwise go borrow from their siblings and friends ... 
They will only step in when all their friends and relatives died ... 
 
That was the response many years ago from the grassroots under 
George Yeo when my bankrupted friend approached PAP for help 
when she collapsed with acute leukemia ... 
 
This is the HARD truth or HEART truth ... The grassroots response were exactly 
like the ugly, disgusting old woman sitting at the front ...  
 
Not long after that, George Yeo and his team were kicked out after 
they lost in the election ... It was the first GRC to be lost to an opposition 
party in Singapore history ... 
 
God bless my friend, He sent a God fearing family to pay for all her  
medical expenses until now ...  
Thanks Zelphon for sharing your friend stories. 
 
Behind every G policies, there will always be cracks and people who benefited and suffers. 
 
I felt for the poor and sick people who are not able to fence for themselves too. 
 
They are definitely the kind of people that we expects our G to protect in the first place. 
 
It is the G job to reach out to those needy that's bed-ridden or not able to step out of their home. 
 
No doubt about that. 
 
As a Singaporean or even foreigner in SGP, if you had encounter these needy, please step up and help them connect to the G too. 
 
I reminded myself, that we had a lots of want. 
But our need is very little. 
 
Like MP ChanCS answer on a question raise during election campaign: 
One at a time. 
 
  Love Compassion 
Without LOVE, We will die. 
 
 
 
Earth day - save the world everyday. 
Not my friend lah..
 
I quoted from another forum..
 
I apologise for not mentioning it earlier...
 
Busy stirring Sh** in HWZ and SG TALK on the Hri Kumar's CPF forum and the PAP grassroots scum..
 http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-dr...12039.html
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-dr...11385.html
I am an avid PAP-hater...
 
So just gotta  make that clear here...
 
Not gonna politicize too much in this forum because I know VB is a great forum on value investment...
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (15-06-2014, 10:29 AM)Zelphon Wrote:   (15-06-2014, 09:31 AM)egghead Wrote:  Just read the paper this morning.  This lady lives in a landed property lah.  I trust that she will get the help she deserves.  
PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ... 
 
Otherwise go borrow from their siblings and friends ... 
They will only step in when all their friends and relatives died ... 
 
That was the response many years ago from the grassroots under 
George Yeo when my bankrupted friend approached PAP for help 
when she collapsed with acute leukemia ... 
 
This is the HARD truth or HEART truth ... The grassroots response were exactly 
like the ugly, disgusting old woman sitting at the front ...  
 
Not long after that, George Yeo and his team were kicked out after 
they lost in the election ... It was the first GRC to be lost to an opposition 
party in Singapore history ... 
 
God bless my friend, He sent a God fearing family to pay for all her  
medical expenses until now ... This type of hearsay, i have heard before from Taxi drivers or some others. How much is truth and how much is exaggerated is hard to say. 
May be until someone you know face the same situation then you will really know. 
But we know our CPF system is build on "MERITOCRACY ONLY". Don't expect anything more from our G. 
God indeed has blessed your friend.
	  
	
	
WB:- 
 
1) Rule # 1, do not lose money. 
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1. 
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money. 
 
    Truism of Investments. 
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return 
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return. 
 
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		Why? Hate is a big word. We should all be working together for betterment of this country and society we live in.  
How is hate going to help you or the society and the country?
 
What does hate do but cause problems.... 
 
If you disagree with their policies or experience something wrong like I did , voice it out in the meet the people session or write in to the newspaper to express your views to be heard. 
 
But when you do, do it constructively, so that people understand and appreciate where you are coming from. 
 
Antagonizing anyone is not going to help.  
  (15-06-2014, 10:49 AM)Zelphon Wrote:  I am an avid PAP-hater... 
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		15-06-2014, 04:12 PM 
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		 (15-06-2014, 10:29 AM)Zelphon Wrote:  PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ... 
That's what I'm thinking also but there's quite a few elderly homes where they put people they want to keep out of public eye like street homeless those with mental issues that she mentioned she is alone her health and memory condition and the video has qone viral.
 
but quite callous the way her money was removed from her bank account but nobody here wants to question that because since nobody knows enough so never mind just look away
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (15-06-2014, 10:29 AM)Zelphon Wrote:  PAP will tell the old lady to sell her landed property and downgrade to 
5 rm HDB, if not enough downgrade to 4rm, 3rm, 2rm, and finally  
1rm ... 
Handsome
 
So your point is that the Govt should help the old lady equally regardless whether she owns $5 million or $200k worth of property? Does your position change if instead of owning property, she has all that assets in the form of cash in bank or stocks instead?
 
P.S. Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I am not a Govt hater or supporter but I have voted opposition all this while.
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	 
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