Must Read: It's a bull market, but not as you know it , says Aitken

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I got this article from an Aussie mate and thought it was relevant from the global perspective:

"Record-low yields for better quality government and corporate debt, along with pithy term deposits rates, have forced those looking for income towards riskier assets. "The only reason our team probably got anything right in the last year was working out that people are going to have no alternative. In here we call it TINA: there is no alternative. Central banks are forcing people who rely on income to live to take risks and to get the income they need from dividends,'' Aitken explains."

TINA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_No_Alternative

It's a bull market, but not as you know it , says Aitken
Philip Baker and Peter Wells
1301 words
15 Apr 2013
The Australian Financial Review
AFNR
English
Copyright 2013. Fairfax Media Management Pty Limited.
Sharemarket Everyone's watching one man and his tie to find out when the run is over.
If you see Charlie Aitken wearing a tie during the week, get hold of your broker and start selling shares. It's a signal he thinks the current bull market is over.
In August 2012 the well-known, optimistic stockbroker told clients the five-year bear market was over and it was time to buy equities again.
The Australian sharemarket has risen almost 20 per cent since.
"I got so nervous writing the report, despite everyone on the team agreeing with the call, that I took my tie off and have kept it off ever since. It won't be back on while I'm in the office until I think this bull run is over,'' the superstitious managing director of Bell Potter Wholesale says.
Wary of jinxing things, Aitken – who gets up at 6am each morning to produce a daily newsletter read by thousands – is also holding to other routines from that August morning. He has been driving the same route to work each day and, when he arrives, orders a macchiato with Vegemite toast from Aurora Cafe in Sydney.
Aitken may have been timely last year with his call on the end of the bear market, but what has followed doesn't seem like a "normal" bull market.
"It's the strangest bull market I've ever seen. In the past you'd say with a bull market everything goes up. This is not case, it's not the same. We've seen mining shares fall, mining services fall, while small caps and mid caps have also been left behind. It's not your classic bull market," he says.
"Don't get me wrong, things are better – no doubt. But you're working very, very hard. Trust me, this isn't your typical 2003 to 2007 bull market, where you hung your shingle out, business came in and you went to the Ivy Pool Bar. It's not that."
In fact, as he points out, the bear ¬market might be over but it's only the start of the bull market for about eight stocks – large caps with relatively high dividend yields.
"I thought mining stocks would be involved because of inflation with money being printed by global central banks. That hasn't worked out and that really surprised me. So you get some part of it right and some part of it wrong,'' he adds.
In keeping with the new style of bull market, Aitken has eschewed a typical lavish 40th birthday recently in favour of staying home with his six months' ¬pregnant wife and their three-year-old child.
There might be cause for some celebration later this year depending on how hard the rally continues, but for Aitken, family life is very important these days. Though, as a keen golfer, he laments he's lost a stroke on his handicap for every year he's been married.
"I hope my wife doesn't read that,'' he jokes.
What makes this bull market different is the influence of central banks and the effect on investor behaviour.
This time around the bull market is all about yield and dividends.
Record-low yields for better quality government and corporate debt, along with pithy term deposits rates, have forced those looking for income towards riskier assets. "The only reason our team probably got anything right in the last year was working out that people are going to have no alternative. In here we call it TINA: there is no alternative. Central banks are forcing people who rely on income to live to take risks and to get the income they need from dividends,'' Aitken explains.
It's a trend that has a closing date but the typically bullish broker reckons that could be in 2020.
As such, Aitken thinks the big switch back into shares from cash and bonds is still in its infancy. This is why, although it's a dangerous thing to say, he has to lose a bit of traditional discipline when it comes to evaluating stocks.
In these "unprecedented times", traditional stock measures like price earnings multiples and earnings growth may take a back seat for some time as the ultra-loose monetary policies of central banks force investors to chase yield.
"That means [stocks] could get very, very, very overpriced. But they could remain that way for a long time until the central banks pull out.''
Australia, Aitken says, is arguably the "yield capital of the world" from both a bond and equity perspective.
"If this is all about yields for the next eight years, a huge amount of global money could come here."
Telstra, which the Bell team made a right call on when it was fetching $2.60, closed at $4.61 on Friday, but Aitken can see it going to $5.60. The major banks would keep rallying, too
Aitken expects the day central banks start pulling back support won't come any time soon. Moreover, he thinks the recent move by the Bank of Japan has raised the bar and doesn't rule out a response from other central banks, such as the US Federal Reserve, that could announce more quantitative easing programs.
"Everyone is playing their own home game now, aren't they? Everyone except Australia, that is. And at some stage they might fall back into some form of QE – you never know. It would be unusual that we'd be the only country in the world that with high interest rates, no QE and a currency that's just on a rampage every day while everyone else is doing the opposite."
But there is a hitch.
"The biggest risk though is [central banks] prematurely believe their own bullshit – that they've created asset price inflation and it's all going better – and they start to pull out too quickly, and everyone goes, 'Hang on, it was just you guys. The reason we're here in the stockmarket is you. Don't start believing we've created macroeconomic growth'. That's a big issue for investors, absolutely! It's sort of a mirage because interest rates are zero."
Aitken thinks corporates don't believe central bank action is turning into robust economic activity and are wary of being sucked into high-asset price takeovers.
"They might be right. This long-awaited merger and acquisition spree hasn't happened. What is more likely to happen, is that an IPO cycle starts. I think more private companies will go, 'You guys just buy things on yield and equities, do you? Well here's my private company on 15 times earnings and a 5 per cent yield. You can have it!'"
Easy money from central banks have led to the most recent bubbles in tech and US housing. But investors haven't reached the bubble in yield equities yet.
"I don't think everyone's been sucked into it yet. I don't think everyone's adjusted to the fact that really we could be dealing with very low interest rates for a very long time. The thing is usually it forces most people in. But then I look at it at the moment and mums and dads aren't looking at PEs or valuations Rightly or wrongly, they're looking at what is the grossed-up value of this thing inside my super fund. It's a highly unusual bull market. It's like nothing we've ever seen. It's a bull market but not as you know it. A very selective, narrow bull market. But does it spread is the key."

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#2
IMHO, it is a bull market with a hunger for yield......
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#3
Markets always will swing to one extreme (Bull) of a kind to form a bubble for more and more people to get in before it burst. And to the other extreme (Bear) for more and more people to rush out before it is so quite that you can hear your own breathing. For me it's really very important to understand this classic market behavior. My only worry is will this classic cyclical behavior changes to something i don't understand one day? Besides trying to understand value investing, growth investing, FA, TA, and most important "what can make me money?"
Cheers!
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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#4
hi uncle temperament, you are probably right. people tend to think that things don't change, but some things are more complex then that. unprecedented actions may alter the duration of things and the eventual outcome in different levels of drastic level.
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(05-05-2013, 01:06 AM)Dividend Warrior Wrote: IMHO, it is a bull market with a hunger for yield......

If this is true, then I must thank my luck for moving my investments into dividend stocks since 2011. Big Grin
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#6
Must always remember:
变 幻 莫 测。
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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(05-05-2013, 09:51 AM)Temperament Wrote: Markets always will swing to one extreme (Bull) of a kind to form a bubble for more and more people to get in before it burst. And to the other extreme (Bear) for more and more people to rush out before it is so quite that you can hear your own breathing. For me it's really very important to understand this classic market behavior. My only worry is will this classic cyclical behavior changes to something i don't understand one day? Besides trying to understand value investing, growth investing, FA, TA, and most important "what can make me money?"
Cheers!

No worries. The story does change because the Wall Street guys have to come up with new stories to make their next bonus.

However, THIS TIME will NEVER be different because the plot never changes. New products -> sceptics -> proven to work -> more people hear about it and bring it higher -> run out of greater fools -> start running for the exit -> scramble for the exit -> depression and sleepless nights

With our selective short memory system, over-confidence and a propensity to keep up with the Jones, it is only a matter of time (and memory) for the cycle to complete one wavelength.
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(05-05-2013, 12:17 PM)weijian Wrote:
(05-05-2013, 09:51 AM)Temperament Wrote: Markets always will swing to one extreme (Bull) of a kind to form a bubble for more and more people to get in before it burst. And to the other extreme (Bear) for more and more people to rush out before it is so quite that you can hear your own breathing. For me it's really very important to understand this classic market behavior. My only worry is will this classic cyclical behavior changes to something i don't understand one day? Besides trying to understand value investing, growth investing, FA, TA, and most important "what can make me money?"
Cheers!

No worries. The story does change because the Wall Street guys have to come up with new stories to make their next bonus.

However, THIS TIME will NEVER be different because the plot never changes. New products -> sceptics -> proven to work -> more people hear about it and bring it higher -> run out of greater fools -> start running for the exit -> scramble for the exit -> depression and sleepless nights

With our selective short memory system, over-confidence and a propensity to keep up with the Jones, it is only a matter of time (and memory) for the cycle to complete one wavelength.
Ha! Ha!
i think you are most probably right lah!
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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#9
It all depends on the central bankers.

Money printing alone can only keep interest rates low. Only economic stimulus packages can drive real economic growth.
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#10
And we are indeed getting IPO that are focused on yields.

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