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A Newbie Guide to Investing
05-08-2012, 08:31 PM.
Post: #11
RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(05-08-2012, 07:12 PM)KopiKat Wrote: IMO, the risk of mid-to-small caps is, they may not survive a downturn / mismanagement as well as a large caps. So, we need to be extra stringent in our screening. In my case, I'm more fearful of high gearing and low margins. I'm also mentally prepared to "run" faster if anything goes wrong...Tongue

Same here, I have also switched quite a lot of my funds here (now >1/3 of invested $$) - I don't quite like the lower market yield of many of my No / Slow Growth large caps. Yes, my YTD performance is also quite unbelievable but I'm reminding myself that STI = +15% YTD is likely responsible and aiding me considerably. The real test would be when market becomes bearish...Tongue

Yes, i am fully agreed with you on the important of lowly gear and larger margin of safety for mid and small cap vs big cap stocks. But the effort is well rewarded with their higher yield

The fund turn-over is still reasonable at approx 15%, will expect it get higher when more switching opportunity arises Big Grin

The YTD performance is more than 10% above STI base on XIRR. Unbelievable? Tongue
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05-08-2012, 09:32 PM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
Basically, till date, I will consider this is a bull year. If it is not, then I do not know how to classify it.
Well... probably lady luck is smiling at me.

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05-08-2012, 09:41 PM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(05-08-2012, 08:31 PM)CityFarmer Wrote: The fund turn-over is still reasonable at approx 15%, will expect it get higher when more switching opportunity arises Big Grin

The YTD performance is more than 10% above STI base on XIRR. Unbelievable? Tongue

My turnover is a lot higher, Buy = Sell = Portfolio ....
Decided not to use XIRR as it seems to be giving too good a value (maybe enhanced by high turnover). Using my own non-scientific method, also better than STI...

(05-08-2012, 09:32 PM)yeokiwi Wrote: Basically, till date, I will consider this is a bull year. If it is not, then I do not know how to classify it.
Well... probably lady luck is smiling at me.

Yup! But I think we may be having many similar stocks. Tongue
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05-08-2012, 10:14 PM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
If you think that transactions help to improve your XIRR then you may want to do it often because XIRR itself is not bias against fewer transactions.

You can test using same profit but mock it with 2 sets of data of different transactions and see for yourself.

What may have happen is we tend to use today date to value existing holding or just measuring a stock only. Not say the data is wrong but may not be meaningful to measure oneself investment performance.


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06-08-2012, 10:25 AM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(05-08-2012, 10:14 PM)corydorus Wrote: If you think that transactions help to improve your XIRR then you may want to do it often because XIRR itself is not bias against fewer transactions.

You can test using same profit but mock it with 2 sets of data of different transactions and see for yourself.

What may have happen is we tend to use today date to value existing holding or just measuring a stock only. Not say the data is wrong but may not be meaningful to measure oneself investment performance.


Cory

Yes, i agreed that XIRR does not bias with fewer transactions. If it bring better performance with XIRR, it also mean better return in real $, both realized and in paper.

We should always avoid to inflate % return with annualized figure in shorter period. Best is to always include the last date i.e. 31 Dec in XIRR equation with CMV of holdings.
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17-09-2012, 04:38 PM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
Hi,
Pardon the newbie question, but how do we find the free cashflow in a financial report? "Cashflow from operations"?

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17-09-2012, 05:36 PM. (This post was last modified: 18-09-2012, 08:01 AM by CityFarmer.)
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(17-09-2012, 04:38 PM)snowcap Wrote: Hi,
Pardon the newbie question, but how do we find the free cashflow in a financial report? "Cashflow from operations"?

Cash Flow from Operation - capital expense = Free Cash Flow

Capital expense might not readily available in FR. I normally just take "PPE enhancement" as CE, +/- base on common sense to derive my CE if not readily available
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17-09-2012, 09:27 PM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
Hi all

I am posting up one more attachment for those who are interested in learning about financial statements.

Do understand that I will take it down if mods or admin request me to do so to prevent any 'incident".

Please share among members if this unfortunate thing happens.


.pdf   Essentials of Financial Analysis.pdf (Size: 1.83 MB / Downloads: 211)
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18-09-2012, 10:34 AM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(17-09-2012, 05:36 PM)CityFarmer Wrote:
(17-09-2012, 04:38 PM)snowcap Wrote: Hi,
Pardon the newbie question, but how do we find the free cashflow in a financial report? "Cashflow from operations"?

Cash Flow from Operation - capital expense = Free Cash Flow

Capital expense might not readily available in FR. I normally just take "PPE enhancement" as CE, +/- base on common sense to derive my CE if not readily available

Purchase of PPE or capital expense if you like, is avaliable in cash flow statement. It is normally found just under the cash flow from operation.

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18-09-2012, 11:36 AM.
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RE: A Newbie Guide to Investing
(17-09-2012, 09:27 PM)arthur Wrote: Hi all

I am posting up one more attachment for those who are interested in learning about financial statements.

Do understand that I will take it down if mods or admin request me to do so to prevent any 'incident".

Please share among members if this unfortunate thing happens.

Thanks for the sharing.
i like to share this extract from the book:-
{The Dick Davis Dividend}

"No matter how thoroughly you research, it still comes down to an informed guess. Even you know everything there is to know, there's no way you can predict how the market will react to what you know. This is why some investors simply satisfied themselves that a stock is selling at the low end of its historic price/earning multiple range, and let it go at that. Others want the guess as informed as possible and do more digging, while still others will just watch a stock for a long time, get to know it well, and develop a feel for the way it acts.

Wait for It to Come to You

Whatever the approach, whatever the efforts are made, it's a worthwhile endeavor because proper entry level is so crucial. There's an old Wall Street maxim: "A stock well bought is half sold" You must buy a stock in a reasonable buying range to avoid being involuntarily locked-in, long, long-term investor. if the stock doesn't come to you, if it doesn't enter your buying range, turn away. there's always another stock."

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So for me that's why i believe "all animals in the market can make money except the PIGS". By the way, i am a "Rojak Investors". i make use of anything that i think can help me to make money. My apology to all "pure value investors", if there is really one in this world. SorryBig Grin
Amen.
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1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

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My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.

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