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(27-06-2016, 10:52 PM)corydorus Wrote: [ -> ]If we use solely economics impact to measure  in/out of EU we got it completely wrong. EU is not only wanting of economic only. There is sovereignty, culture, democracy, language, fairness, history ... Even the currency pound means something to the people, to the world. There will be transition impact but economically in the future can be brighter. Is up to their leaders to make it happens. The future is exciting !

To preserve an national identity, has nothing wrong. They decide on their own future, and willing to pay for it. The trick, is do they aware of the cost? Do they sure the outcome of their choice?

I am not sure the impact is transitional. Britain will survive for sure, but will it much worst-off, for a very long time in the future?
Can the UK Parliament veto Brexit? Your questions answered

LONDON — The stunning outcome of last week’s UK referendum has unleashed waves of doubt about what happens next. Here’s a list of the latest questions doing the rounds:

CAN THE RESULT SOMEHOW BE OVERTURNED?

This comes up again and again. In short, it’s possible, but unlikely. The referendum is non-binding, so the next prime minister could just choose to ignore it. If there’s a snap election, a political party could promise to call a new referendum. Scotland could also make things difficult.

Still, it would be extremely difficult to ignore the views of the 17.4 million people who voted to leave.

COULD THE UK PARLIAMENT VETO THE REFERENDUM?

In theory, yes. Human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson argues in this article that parliamentary assent is needed to repeal the 1972 legislation that took the UK into the EU. So lawmakers could override the public will by refusing to remove that law from the statute books.

Others aren’t so sure. Mr Raoul Ruparel of the Open Europe think tank says that the legislative body can certainly apply political pressure on the government. But once Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is triggered, Britain would have to leave the EU after two years, regardless of what parliament does.

And the question remains as to whether lawmakers would risk angering voters by blocking the referendum. Especially as it was backed by supporters of both major political parties.

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT’S BREXIT PLANS?

We got a few bits and pieces in the past 24 hours. A new EU unit will be set up in government to start doing the groundwork. It will comprise of officials from the Treasury, the Cabinet Office, the Business Department and the Foreign Office. Conservative lawmaker Oliver Letwin, who heads the Cabinet Office, will ensure all points of view across the political spectrum are fed into the process.

Mr Boris Johnson, the favourite to succeed Mr David Cameron as prime minister, wrote in an op-ed that there will continue to be access to Europe’s single market and EU citizens living in the UK. He disclosed almost no specifics.

Ultimately we are no closer to knowing what the UK’s relationship with the world’s biggest trading bloc will look like when the secession is completed.

WHEN WILL WE HAVE A NEW PRIME MINISTER?

With stocks plunging and the pound hitting new lows, the Conservative Party’s grandees today said a new leader will be elected by Sept 2. That’s nearly a month earlier than originally planned by Mr Cameron.

JUST HOW BAD COULD THE UK RECESSION BE?

Anecdotal evidence suggests that the result is already spreading a chill through the economy. Property transactions are being cancelled, Easyjet lost nearly a quarter of its value Monday (June 27( after saying the result will hurt business for the rest of the summer and Airbus Group SE said it’s reviewing its investment strategy in Britain. Nomura Holdings estimates that the economy could contract almost 2 per cent from peak to trough. That compares with a 6 per cent slump during the financial crisis of 2008-2009.

WHY DOES THE LABOUR PARTY CRISIS MATTER IF IT’S NOT IN POWER?

With the country mired in its biggest political crisis in decades, the opposition matters because it will push the government on its weak spots and can force concessions on issues such as immigration and market access. Should Mr Cameron’s successor call an election in coming months, Labour will need to clarify its position on Brexit as its leader could be forming the next government.

WHAT IS THE ‘SHADOW CABINET’ ANYWAY?

Essentially, it’s the Labour Party’s government-in-waiting. Until Sunday, it consisted of 31 people, each with the task of holding a particular government minister to account. With criticism of Mr Corbyn’s leadership style mounting an unprecedented revolt is underway. Since Sunday, 18 members have quit and at least 40 lawmakers have left his wider team.

SO WILL CORBYN QUIT?

Probably not. He was elected just nine months ago by almost 60 per cent of the party membership. He is still popular with them and hence difficult to dislodge. The problem for Labour’s plotters is that the base was swollen by an influx of new left-wing members when membership rules were changed last year. Mr Corbyn, who tweeted on June 23 that he voted “Remain”, has said he intends to stand if a leadership vote is triggered. BLOOMBERG
http://www.todayonline.com/world/europe/...s-answered
Italy eyes €40bn bank rescue as first Brexit domino falls
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016...ino-falls/


(26-06-2016, 09:08 AM)Behappyalways Wrote: [ -> ]Soros warns of EU disintegration
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36630468


Brexit and the Future of Europe
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commen...os-2016-06
His posture striking resemblence to a german ex-leader  Big Grin

After brexit would be italeave I guess.. then could be followed by grexit, departugal, Czechout, oustria, finish, slovakout, latervia and Byegium. Only Remainia will stay. [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]

No one posted so I just had to cut and paste...

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ha ha ha 

(26-06-2016, 02:53 PM)corydorus Wrote: [ -> ]EU will be in a lot worst condition if they did not divorce amicably. They need UK being the 6th largest economy.
At the end of the day is not who lose more but both will try to win with closer economic corporation between 2 entities.

(27-06-2016, 10:52 PM)corydorus Wrote: [ -> ]If we use solely economics impact to measure  in/out of EU we got it completely wrong. EU is not only wanting of economic only. There is sovereignty, culture, democracy, language, fairness, history ... Even the currency pound means something to the people, to the world. There will be transition impact but economically in the future can be brighter. Is up to their leaders to make it happens. The future is exciting !

(28-06-2016, 07:15 PM)sgd Wrote: [ -> ]ha ha ha 


I said exactly the same things that Nigel Farage did in EU Parliament. Ofcourse his England is veri good. I do agree those on the benches do not have a "proper job" in their life. (And drawing super high pay)
How is he gona negotiate anything after he insulted the EU parliament...............European way???
They could reject but I agree as nigel farage it will impact eu more than uk on trade in the long run.

The thing is uk has a chance and is free to do whatever it wants there's lots of countries up and coming with growing middle class rising consumer spending in india china indo and commonwealth countries.

The problem with eu as pointed out by farage in one of his videos, whenever any member country in the eu bloc wishes to have a trade agreement with an outside non-eu country it can't and gets overruled because they have to consider interests of other 27 member countries and source within itself so it could be india has cheaper textiles than another eu member but uk gets overruled and needs to buy from that eu member and pay more.

so yes the eu is a huge common market no doubt but there are rules and my impression is the winners in it are the poorer member countries who get to sell to richer neighbors and people tend to gravitate to work in a richer country.
(28-06-2016, 07:15 PM)sgd Wrote: [ -> ]ha ha ha 


It's uncanningly like DPP giving a speech in Great Hall of the People that China is insignificant to them and China need Taiwan more
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