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most are not owned.

outside great London, if i am not wrong, all are managed.

within great london, at least half are leased, another half owned. e.g. the royal horseguards is leased for 30 years. there were around 8 hotels within great london are sale and lease back.
Ot but i stayed at the royal horseguards many years ago when i was with shell... It was a bit rubbish haha.
Although we may not know the status of hotels well, but the fact is the management confirmed the value of the hotels was USD2.1 billions, if marked to market.
AGM will be next month, we can ask .
(18-09-2012, 10:50 PM)Stocker Wrote: [ -> ]Although we may not know the status of hotels well, but the fact is the management confirmed the value of the hotels was USD2.1 billions, if marked to market.
AGM will be next month, we can ask .

Anyone knows how the hotel assets are valued? Whether it includes the leased hotels valued based on the remaining life span, or only the owned hotels are valued.

Volume going up again but not the price. Dodgy
(18-09-2012, 10:50 PM)Stocker Wrote: [ -> ]Although we may not know the status of hotels well, but the fact is the management confirmed the value of the hotels was USD2.1 billions, if marked to market.
AGM will be next month, we can ask .

Actually, the easier question to ask will be how Management views G Leisure's gap between its share price and the book value (let alone the revalue book).

Via the question we can assess management's intention on enhancing shareholders' wealth or merely leaving G Leisure as a value trap.

There is no doubt that G Leisure is undervalued but what are the available option for management to extract the values perhaps via i) piecemeal sale of selected hotels, ii) redevelopment of hotels into apartments or iii) setting up a hotel reit.

Just wonder if management is interested to answer some of these questions or simply lament the tough operating environment and its impact on its current hotel business (which is well known due to the Euro Crisis).
Marathon's holding is further reduced. Transaction is "In Specie transaction involving the transfer of securities to a new beneficial owner."

Wonder who is the new beneficial owner.
Any difference if after this sale or transfer, the total quantity is reduced ? Why not just say 'sale' ?
There is a difference - basically the shares are being transferred to the direct investor that invests in Marathon Assets and there is no considerations involved - perhaps to meet redemption of investments in Marathon Assets by the investor.

Since it is a redemption on investments - the beneficiary could then be selling on the mkt and hence the emergence of selling the last few days

(21-09-2012, 06:32 PM)Stocker Wrote: [ -> ]Any difference if after this sale or transfer, the total quantity is reduced ? Why not just say 'sale' ?
(21-09-2012, 07:49 PM)greengiraffe Wrote: [ -> ]There is a difference - basically the shares are being transferred to the direct investor that invests in Marathon Assets and there is no considerations involved - perhaps to meet redemption of investments in Marathon Assets by the investor.

Since it is a redemption on investments - the beneficiary could then be selling on the mkt and hence the emergence of selling the last few days

(21-09-2012, 06:32 PM)Stocker Wrote: [ -> ]Any difference if after this sale or transfer, the total quantity is reduced ? Why not just say 'sale' ?

No wonder when buyers tried to buy up to 0.625 few days ago, the selling just emergered from nowhere.
Its a not too old article. Just as Singapore's asset markets are benefiting from loose global monetary policies to combat the ongoing global economic gloom, London asset markets are red hot as well given that it is a natural destination for super rich.

With hotels typically sitting on prime prime locations within a city or even a town, the perspective of redevelopment to cash into the rising demands cannot be ruled out.

Quek has previously failed with attempts in privatising G Leisure - main rationale could well be to assume full control of G Leisure in order to totally control the prime assets within it.

The hotel model to hoard assets over long term is a proven one. Well run hotel operations will generate healthy cashflows while enabling the owner to sit through economic cycles till the day they find alternatives to unlock value.

However, you hardly come across old style towkays (Wee Cho Yaw and even Kwek Leng Beng in a limited way) unlocking value through hotel reits as it creates little value apart from generating another layer of paper shuffling.

Hence perhaps a key question to check with G Leisure's management in the upcoming AGM - is the redevelopment potential (into Residential) within its hotel portfolio or even piecemeal trade sale of hotel assets.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-06...surge.html

Wealthy Unmoved by U.K. Tax Hike as Luxury-Home Sales Surge
By Chris Spillane - Sep 7, 2012 11:35 PM GMT+0800

The British government’s plan to raise a tax on luxury-home purchases sparked a last-minute dash by real-estate brokers to wrap up deals before the deadline hit in March. They needn’t have bothered.
Sales of homes valued at 2 million pounds ($3.2 million) more than doubled in May from a year earlier, according to the most recent data available from the Land Registry. After a 40 percent decline in April, sales rebounded as investors from mainland Europe and the Middle East took advantage of the U.K.’s status as a haven from economic and political turmoil.

Brokers including Savills and Knight Frank define prime real estate as homes in the most expensive central London neighborhoods such as Belgravia, Kensington and Knightsbridge. Photographer: Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg

An apartment at One Hyde Park, the U.K.’s most expensive residential complex, was put up for sale Sept. 3 with an asking price of 65 million pounds. Photographer: Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg

“Money is leaving the euro zone and being spent on a safe asset,” Matthew Pointon, an economist at researcher Capital Economics, said. “Safe-haven flows outweigh the increase in the stamp duty.”
Luxury homes have held their value better than cheaper residential properties in the U.K. because of a scarcity of prime real estate for sale, particularly in London. That has led to record prices paid for homes in the city’s Mayfair, Kensington and Knightsbridge districts.

Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne’s annual budget targeted luxury-home purchases to help narrow Britain’s record deficit. He raised a transaction tax known as stamp duty on homes sold for more than 2 million pounds to 7 percent from 5 percent. The use of corporations set up in offshore tax havens such as the Cayman Islands to avoid the tax spawned a 15 percent levy on purchases of homes by companies.

European Investors
In May, 113 houses and apartments in the U.K. sold for more than 2 million pounds, up from 45 a year earlier, according to the Land Registry. In London, sales jumped to 97 from 40 led by overseas buyers.
Homes valued at 10 million pounds or more gained 2.9 percent in price in the three months after Prime Minister David Cameron’s Conservative-led coalition increased the stamp duty, London-based Knight Frank LLP estimates. Home prices in London’s most expensive areas have gained 49 percent since a March 2009 low point and are now 14 percent higher than the previous peak in 2008, the property broker said in a Sept. 3 report.

“London has been extremely hot,” Yolande Barnes, head of residential research at broker Savills Plc (SVS), said in a phone interview. “This was a record quarter, but it’s been pretty strong even before that.”

Negligible Impact
Small tax increases for the ultra-wealthy individuals aren’t likely to deter them from buying luxury residences in central London, according to Charles Leigh, a director at broker CB Richard Ellis Group Inc. (CBG)
“A percent here or there isn’t a major threat,” Leigh said in an interview.
There are 10,760 ultra-high net worth individuals living in Britain, according to Wealth-X, which works with luxury brands and banks to build a database of people who collectively hold $10.7 trillion of wealth. They’re defined as U.K. residents with net worth of at least $30 million, and together they have combined assets of $1.3 trillion.
The U.K. capital is home to 5,955 “ultra-wealthy” people, more than twice as many as Paris, which has 2,820, according to Wealth-X. Zurich ranks third among European cities with 1,775.
Aldine Honey, proprietor of her own luxury real estate brokerage, handled the sale of a 28.1 million-pound home in London’s Mayfair neighborhood in May, the last month for which U.K. Land Registry was published.

‘Extraordinarily Positive’
“It’s extraordinarily positive considering the 7 percent stamp duty,” Honey said in an interview. “Wealthy people still consider London a safe haven.”
Britain’s government is weighing an extension of a capital- gains tax on homes valued at more than 2 million pounds held by unnaturalized non-residents. Some brokers, such as W. A. Ellis, aren’t sure that overseas investors can withstand further taxes on the U.K.’s luxury homes. Some property owners may want to get out while they can, said Richard Barber, a partner at the firm.
“You’re not going to want to get stumped for capital gains,” Barber said.
Doubts about whether luxury-home prices can maintain upward momentum have arisen amid a predicted wave of new building. Builders plan to complete more than 15,000 houses and apartments in London over the next decade to keep up with demand for properties in the city’s traditional prime neighborhoods, according to consulting firm EC Harris LLP.

‘Downside Risk’
Prime Minister David Cameron is loosening requirements on homebuilders to allow them build projects that are presently unprofitable as he seeks to pull Britain out of a double-dip recession. The U.K.’s economic growth slowed in the three months through August and “significant downside risks” remain, the National Institute of Economic and Social Research said today.
The 10-year development pipeline increased 70 percent from a year earlier and companies now expect to construct homes with a sales value of 38 billion pounds, EC Harris said Sept. 3. About 3,800 units are expected to be completed in 2016, more than seven times this year’s total of 500.
“There may be a question mark about the sustainability of some of the price growth we’ve seen in the last year or two in certain areas of super-prime London, which has been phenomenal,” said Mark Farmer, head of residential at EC Harris, in an interview.
Brokers such as Savills are making contrary forecasts. The market will regulate the supply of prime central London homes to a greater extent than has been predicted, according to Savills’ Barnes.

No Overhang
“There will be no vast overhang of stock by 2015 because developers will provide a variety of product in different locations and at different price points, tapping into different market segments,” Barnes said in a statement. Not all projects with planning permission will be built immediately, she added.
About 830 hectares (2,050 acres) of land were released for residential development by planning authorities in London over the four years through 2009, a drop of 10 percent from the same period through 2004, broker Jones Lang LaSalle Inc. (JLL) said in February. That’s prompted developers to renovate older office buildings as homes as buyers hold on to prime London residences for longer and help drive up prices.
Brokers including Savills and Knight Frank define prime real estate as homes in the most expensive central London neighborhoods such as Belgravia, Kensington and Knightsbridge.
An apartment at One Hyde Park, the U.K.’s most expensive residential complex, was put up for sale Sept. 3 with an asking price of 65 million pounds. The 9,000 square-foot (836 square- meter) property in Knightsbridge has four bedrooms and takes up an entire floor of the building, according to a statement by Aylesford International, the broker managing the sale.
“The main feature of any of these deals and the prices they’re achieving is that there’s such little stock” of luxury homes available, Honey said.
To contact the reporter on this story: Chris Spillane in London at cspillane3@bloomberg.net.
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andrew Blackman at ablackman@bloomberg.net.