Is It Too Late to Buy Stocks?

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By Jerry Webman | U.S.News & World Report 8 February 2013

Source: http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/too-buy...44654.html

Money has been pouring into stocks globally over the last few weeks, as investors have
grown more comfortable taking risk--and less comfortable missing gains. It's not hard
to see why they might feel this way. Several key sources of worry have receded,
including the dreaded possibilities of going over the so-called fiscal cliff and of failing to
raise the U.S. debt ceiling, which could have placed the U.S. at risk of default. Plus,
rising markets tend to coax hesitant investors into taking on more risk--herd behavior
at work.

And it's not just the absence of bad news that's at work. U.S. economic data have
generally been benign, and fourth-quarter corporate sales and earnings results have
mostly topped expectations. China is reaccelerating, and even in the eurozone, which
continues to struggle economically, sentiment has become more sanguine since the
European Central Bank stepped in last summer with a promise to do "whatever it takes"
to prevent a meltdown.

Receding risks and positive macroeconomic news are well and good, but questions are
building as to whether this rally represents something more than just another
temporary bout of bullishness in an otherwise sideways market. Specifically, market
watchers are wondering whether we're seeing another round of New Year's optimism,
destined to morph into summer doldrums or the beginning of the Great Rotation--a
mass re-allocation from bonds into equities that could drive stock prices to new heights.
If the latter prevails, the gains we've seen in recent months may be part of a broader,
longer secular bull market.

Before addressing this question, I would point out that while the long-term,
fundamental picture does appear bullish for stocks, technical indicators--statistical
attempts to measure supply and demand balance in financial markets--point toward the
possibility of a modest correction in the near term. As Jerry Garcia, the noted financial
economist (or was it Grateful Dead front man?) warned, "When life looks like easy
street, there is danger at your door." Various measures of investor sentiment do seem to
have become excessively bullish lately, reminding us not to expect recent good news to
be the only type of headline we're liable to read.

Over the longer term, however, market fundamentals, in my view, support the prospect
of a bull market with considerable time left to run. Central banks' extraordinarily
accommodative policiescontinue to lend asset prices support, for example, and in the
absence of rip-roaring growth or inflation in most of the developed world, easy
monetary policy should be with us for some time to come. Demand for goods and
services seems to be on the upswing (or at least stabilizing) in many regions, whether it
be for industrial commodities in China or for autos and housing in the U.S. Even in
troubled Greece the government now professes that additional austerity measures won't
be necessary provided that currently planned spending cuts actually come to fruition--a
big "if," I admit.

Prices the market now requires us to pay for stocks appear reasonable or even attractive
for many equity indices even though stocks clearly are not as cheap on an absolute basis
as they were even two years ago. Many equity indices appear especially undervalued
compared to bonds, which have been many investors' perceived safe haven for the past
several years.

Beyond these factors, reports on net "flows"--a Wall St. term for the mass of money
constantly washing into and out of asset classes--offer among the most powerful
arguments that the Great Rotation may be under way. Starting in the fall of 2008,
panicking investors sold off investments of all kinds at a staggering rate. September of
that year saw hundreds of billions of dollars flow out of equity, fixed income and even
money market funds, according the Investment Company Institute. When shell-
shocked investors began returning to financial markets in late 2008, they began
overwhelmingly investing in bonds, while equities continued to suffer quarter after
quarter of net outflows.

The exodus from stocks wasn't limited to individual investors. According to a recent
Bank of America Merrill Lynch study, as of the end of 2011 (the latest full-year data
available), equity allocations had fallen to their lowest percentage of corporate pension
assets since 2002 (41.8 percent vs. a 10-year average of 56.1 percent), while bond
allocations were at their highest levels (40.2 percent vs. 33 percent). Given that assets in
such pensions total about $2.3 trillion, a shift back toward more "normal" pension asset
allocations could have a profound effect, with a 10 percent increase in pension equity
allocations potentially driving $228 billion back into the stock market.
Recent flow data suggest the Great Rotation may have only just begun. After seeing
$600 billion in net outflows over the preceding seven years, January has seen at least
$35 billion return to domestic equity markets, most of which came from money market
funds. Even peripheral Europe attracted about $125 billion in net inflows, according to
news reports.

Investors appear finally to be coming off the sidelines and perhaps reassessing their
allocations to investment-grade fixed income. This is just as well. As I've been arguing
for some time, with interest rates often below the rate of inflation, high-quality bonds
offer precious little value in today's market--and the potential for serious losses when
and if interest rates start rising again in earnest. In contrast, I believe stocks' solid run
in recent months may have laid the groundwork for a modest, near-term pullback, but
they are likely to continue to reward patient investors over the coming years.

Jerry Webman is the author of MoneyShift: How to Prosper from What You Can't Control and Chief Economist at OppenheimerFunds.

The above article is taken from Yeoman Capital Newsletter 2Q2014 : http://www.yeomancap.com/images/Yeoman-N...080714.pdf
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#2
During bull market, there are some bear stocks.
During bear market, there are some bull stocks.

So you will need to buy the right stocks at the right time and at good price.
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#3
do not time the market Big Grin
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(16-07-2014, 03:41 PM)kayhian Wrote: do not time the market Big Grin

You can always make the argument for or against buying stocks. But I personally feel that if one focuses his time and energy on individual companies, as opposed to trying to time the market, its just that much easier.

Also, most of the market commentary is focused on the US market, and might not be representative of the markets we invest in.

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(16-07-2014, 09:55 PM)theasiareport Wrote:
(16-07-2014, 03:41 PM)kayhian Wrote: do not time the market Big Grin

You can always make the argument for or against buying stocks. But I personally feel that if one focuses his time and energy on individual companies, as opposed to trying to time the market, its just that much easier.

Quote:Also, most of the market commentary is focused on the US market, and might not be representative of the markets we invest in.

Cheers,
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This may be true but if US markets dive, i think almost all world's markets will follow suit. i think you can't find an exception. Even if you can find one, it will not be for long. imo.
WB:-

1) Rule # 1, do not lose money.
2) Rule # 2, refer to # 1.
3) Not until you can manage your emotions, you can manage your money.

Truism of Investments.
A) Buying a security is buying RISK not Return
B) You can control RISK (to a certain level, hopefully only.) But definitely not the outcome of the Return.

NB:-
My signature is meant for psychoing myself. No offence to anyone. i am trying not to lose money unnecessary anymore.
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#6
There's definitely some correlation... but what I was getting at was that the valuation of the stock market at that point of time may differ from that of the US.

The markets will definitely fluctuate with time... but lets say the SGX trades at 12x PE and drops 10%, while the NASDAQ trades at 40x PE and drops 10%... you get very different investment opportunities.

Cheers,
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Quote:This may be true but if US markets dive, i think almost all world's markets will follow suit. i think you can't find an exception. Even if you can find one, it will not be for long. imo.
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Hi Cyclone,

Thanks for another insightful article.

I have always been saying that the stock market cycle has been that of 3 sharp bears and 7 grinding bulls and the years ending with 7 have been jinxed since 1977.

Call it coincidence or what MH 370 and 17, Boeing 777 all appeared jinx.

I m putting the historical 7 to test and holding my breadth for the last phase of the current bull run to transition to that of penultimate phase.

IMHO, sgx listed stocks are fairly valued and even Yellen recently highlighted selected tech and biotech sectors in the US as potential bubbly sectors.

Locally, there are divergence in the share prices of property counters and the grim local reality. Market players are excited over the potential restructuring of local transport players simply due to new model to be adopted and simply "forgiven" the mess that they have created. Alibaba's strategic stake in Sing Post has added imagination to a tough business that requires new lease of life to counter a structural decline in mail volumes.

Even on vb, many buddies are digging deeper and deeper and starting to hope that management with lacklustre track record will unlock hidden values.

With money being "saliently" made in a low volatility environment, more new monies will be attracted to take risks and the music and cycle will be repeated.

My prediction hereby continues to stand - get ready for the penultimate phase, enjoy but don't become overly confident.

GG

(16-07-2014, 02:07 PM)cyclone Wrote: By Jerry Webman | U.S.News & World Report 8 February 2013

Source: http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/too-buy...44654.html

Money has been pouring into stocks globally over the last few weeks, as investors have
grown more comfortable taking risk--and less comfortable missing gains. It's not hard
to see why they might feel this way. Several key sources of worry have receded,
including the dreaded possibilities of going over the so-called fiscal cliff and of failing to
raise the U.S. debt ceiling, which could have placed the U.S. at risk of default. Plus,
rising markets tend to coax hesitant investors into taking on more risk--herd behavior
at work.

And it's not just the absence of bad news that's at work. U.S. economic data have
generally been benign, and fourth-quarter corporate sales and earnings results have
mostly topped expectations. China is reaccelerating, and even in the eurozone, which
continues to struggle economically, sentiment has become more sanguine since the
European Central Bank stepped in last summer with a promise to do "whatever it takes"
to prevent a meltdown.

Receding risks and positive macroeconomic news are well and good, but questions are
building as to whether this rally represents something more than just another
temporary bout of bullishness in an otherwise sideways market. Specifically, market
watchers are wondering whether we're seeing another round of New Year's optimism,
destined to morph into summer doldrums or the beginning of the Great Rotation--a
mass re-allocation from bonds into equities that could drive stock prices to new heights.
If the latter prevails, the gains we've seen in recent months may be part of a broader,
longer secular bull market.

Before addressing this question, I would point out that while the long-term,
fundamental picture does appear bullish for stocks, technical indicators--statistical
attempts to measure supply and demand balance in financial markets--point toward the
possibility of a modest correction in the near term. As Jerry Garcia, the noted financial
economist (or was it Grateful Dead front man?) warned, "When life looks like easy
street, there is danger at your door." Various measures of investor sentiment do seem to
have become excessively bullish lately, reminding us not to expect recent good news to
be the only type of headline we're liable to read.

Over the longer term, however, market fundamentals, in my view, support the prospect
of a bull market with considerable time left to run. Central banks' extraordinarily
accommodative policiescontinue to lend asset prices support, for example, and in the
absence of rip-roaring growth or inflation in most of the developed world, easy
monetary policy should be with us for some time to come. Demand for goods and
services seems to be on the upswing (or at least stabilizing) in many regions, whether it
be for industrial commodities in China or for autos and housing in the U.S. Even in
troubled Greece the government now professes that additional austerity measures won't
be necessary provided that currently planned spending cuts actually come to fruition--a
big "if," I admit.

Prices the market now requires us to pay for stocks appear reasonable or even attractive
for many equity indices even though stocks clearly are not as cheap on an absolute basis
as they were even two years ago. Many equity indices appear especially undervalued
compared to bonds, which have been many investors' perceived safe haven for the past
several years.

Beyond these factors, reports on net "flows"--a Wall St. term for the mass of money
constantly washing into and out of asset classes--offer among the most powerful
arguments that the Great Rotation may be under way. Starting in the fall of 2008,
panicking investors sold off investments of all kinds at a staggering rate. September of
that year saw hundreds of billions of dollars flow out of equity, fixed income and even
money market funds, according the Investment Company Institute. When shell-
shocked investors began returning to financial markets in late 2008, they began
overwhelmingly investing in bonds, while equities continued to suffer quarter after
quarter of net outflows.

The exodus from stocks wasn't limited to individual investors. According to a recent
Bank of America Merrill Lynch study, as of the end of 2011 (the latest full-year data
available), equity allocations had fallen to their lowest percentage of corporate pension
assets since 2002 (41.8 percent vs. a 10-year average of 56.1 percent), while bond
allocations were at their highest levels (40.2 percent vs. 33 percent). Given that assets in
such pensions total about $2.3 trillion, a shift back toward more "normal" pension asset
allocations could have a profound effect, with a 10 percent increase in pension equity
allocations potentially driving $228 billion back into the stock market.
Recent flow data suggest the Great Rotation may have only just begun. After seeing
$600 billion in net outflows over the preceding seven years, January has seen at least
$35 billion return to domestic equity markets, most of which came from money market
funds. Even peripheral Europe attracted about $125 billion in net inflows, according to
news reports.

Investors appear finally to be coming off the sidelines and perhaps reassessing their
allocations to investment-grade fixed income. This is just as well. As I've been arguing
for some time, with interest rates often below the rate of inflation, high-quality bonds
offer precious little value in today's market--and the potential for serious losses when
and if interest rates start rising again in earnest. In contrast, I believe stocks' solid run
in recent months may have laid the groundwork for a modest, near-term pullback, but
they are likely to continue to reward patient investors over the coming years.

Jerry Webman is the author of MoneyShift: How to Prosper from What You Can't Control and Chief Economist at OppenheimerFunds.

The above article is taken from Yeoman Capital Newsletter 2Q2014 : http://www.yeomancap.com/images/Yeoman-N...080714.pdf
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The stock prices may run ahead of itself but at most will be correction till earning match-up. I do not see sign of serious flaw in the economy of major countries. Chinese on controlled breaks, US on slow long recovery and Euro crisis mostly over. Furthermore the years of "Printing" kind of drives inflation into stock price. So i do not think stock getting more expensive just that the value of money has "weaken" over the years. Like money, is generally one way.

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I am expecting a correction that will start happening around/after october given that currently that is the target ending of this round of FED stimulus. Markets have always corrected after the ending of the past few QEs.

The US economy will probably get worse after the QE ends which will prompt another QE from Yellen.

So September time is probably a good time to keep more cash in preparation for the dips coming.
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