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Fujian Zhenyun
04-12-2014, 12:47 AM.
Post: #21
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
(05-10-2014, 02:34 PM)CY09 Wrote: Hi Touzi,

You have to scan the annual report, 1 of the sections will have to declare the interest rates its cash is earning as well as the interest charged for its loans.

For FJZY, its found in section 5 & 29. In section 5, it shows their interest expense is higher than the interest earn by their cash parked in banks. For section 29, the group's cash is earning an interest of 0.37% and loans interest rates by the bank ranges from 5.3-10.9% p.a. Just going to say, the figure looks ridiculous.

For comparison with other Sgx listed companies in the interest they earn, the dukang thread has it.
http://www.valuebuddies.com/thread-2151-page-6.html


I have not looked at their financial statements, just sharing my thoughts.

I think their auditors would have performed procedures to check on the bank balances and the procedures would have been thorough especially this is a listed company. However, there are still cases of frauds happening which had occurred in the past.

That's the beauty of investing in S-Chips. High risk high gains. S-chips not for the faint-hearted. Smile

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04-12-2014, 03:17 AM.
Post: #22
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
Why S-Chips? Because some of the S-Chips auditors (if not all) are paid for their "creativity". From the past I have seen, bank balances tend to be the beauty of such "creativity".

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04-12-2014, 10:30 AM.
Post: #23
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
(04-12-2014, 12:47 AM)butcher Wrote: I have not looked at their financial statements, just sharing my thoughts.

I think their auditors would have performed procedures to check on the bank balances and the procedures would have been thorough especially this is a listed company. However, there are still cases of frauds happening which had occurred in the past.

That's the beauty of investing in S-Chips. High risk high gains. S-chips not for the faint-hearted. Smile

A high risk high gain mentality and a focus on low valuation alone, seems like more of a betting in casino, unlike the concept of value investing followed in VB. Tongue

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04-12-2014, 03:30 PM.
Post: #24
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
(04-12-2014, 03:17 AM)valuebuddies Wrote: Why S-Chips? Because some of the S-Chips auditors (if not all) are paid for their "creativity". From the past I have seen, bank balances tend to be the beauty of such "creativity".


Bank balances are the easiest area to be audited among all. For example, an external confirmation from the bank is already a very reliable form of evidence. However, depending on geographical areas, the auditors may have staff (its own or from its network offices overseas) to send staff to the bank branch or HQ to request for the confirmation directly due to past frauds events. However, if the company management is all out to hide, they can even set up a brick and mortar branch and hired people to wear the uniforms etc. all set up to con the auditors.

Don't think auditors will want to risk their reputation and jail sentence to engage in such creative or fraudulent acts. The fees will be high if the job is risky in their sense. Higher risks involved higher fees

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27-12-2014, 12:40 AM.
Post: #25
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
http://infopub.sgx.com/Apps?A=COW_CorpAn...J2ODV6hCEw

Self imposed suspension. Seems to be initiated by the ID's.

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27-12-2014, 11:24 AM.
Post: #26
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
Another down.... Who's next? Sino Grandness?

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27-12-2014, 01:09 PM.
Post: #27
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
To all invester of this chip, I think you should not procrastinate when market open. Just sell. Think safety first. Don't hope against hope.

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27-12-2014, 01:33 PM.
Post: #28
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
Sell + short to cover back your losses.

Having seen the downfall of dozens of S-chips, I will avoid buying S-chips at all cost. There are many other undervalued counters out there.

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27-12-2014, 01:38 PM.
Post: #29
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
(27-12-2014, 01:09 PM)yewkim Wrote: To all invester of this chip, I think you should not procrastinate when market open. Just sell. Think safety first. Don't hope against hope.

Already suspended... I wondering if there is chance to even sell it....

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28-12-2014, 05:23 PM.
Post: #30
RE: Fujian Zhenyun
(27-12-2014, 01:38 PM)desmondxyz Wrote:
(27-12-2014, 01:09 PM)yewkim Wrote: To all invester of this chip, I think you should not procrastinate when market open. Just sell. Think safety first. Don't hope against hope.

Already suspended... I wondering if there is chance to even sell it....

things doesn't looks so rosy for Fujian Zhenyun I think.

Thought their auditors were Mazars, however read on SGX website and CNA their auditors are now Foo Kon Tan GT. Noted their auditors cannot start interim work now. Think a lot of issues to cleared up.

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