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(11-03-2014, 10:30 AM)opmi Wrote:
(11-03-2014, 10:25 AM)CityFarmer Wrote:
(11-03-2014, 09:45 AM)opmi Wrote: If China product safety is not improved, cannot win Amazon. Even though most stuff made in China anyway.
Perception shapes reality.

I am not talking about products, but services.

Amazon and Alibaba are providing services, services that facilitating online deal, both for businesses and consumers.

I will discount the China product quality, especially those beyond control of Alibaba, but Alibaba's service is not included. Big Grin

Services like Alipay, Alibaba.com B2B, Whatsapp types??

Alibaba/Tencent expansions offshore expansion will be slower than in China. Competition is fierce outside China. China also has perceived integrity issue.

I have a different view.

Both Alibaba and Amazon are doing the same type of business, but business models are slightly different.

In a nutshell, Amazon competes with competitors with lower margin, but Alibaba competes with almost zero margin, and derive profit from advertising. Alibaba's customers search within Alibaba's search engine, and work within its business ecosystem, thus make Alibaba able to charge premium fee from advertisers.

Having said so, I am not very sure the model will work within US system. But if it works, than Amazon might be in trouble. Alibaba has all the resource to scale-up as fast as demanded, if the model works.
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RE: Tencent Holdings Ltd (0700) - by CityFarmer - 15-03-2014, 09:17 PM
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