Swiber Holdings

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Hi Blue and VBs

Somehow when Trump is quoted, it lowers the integrity and intelligence of the discussion Big Grin

If one wants to see "NATO" at work, look no further than Taiwan politics

Cycles will happen. Central Banks can only smoothen it or minimize impact. Fact that there is crime in Singapore doesn't mean Singapore is not one of the safest place in the world. Fact that there is boom bust does not mean Central banks are useless. Most people don't think in terms of "what-if" / alternative scenarios / opportunity costs but usually heuristically simple linear cause and effect

Like I said, commodity traders are inherently leveraged just like banks. If it is not viable biz model then it should be closed. But just as banks closing market makers because it is deemed as proprietory trading, there will be collateral damage if commodity trading is deemed undesirable. As I wrote elsewhere I am very concern about overpriced bonds turning into a route when everyone heads for the door because market making is not there to cushion. There is inherent opportunity cost and it can be fatal if one doesn't understand how the value chain works

As for Swiber this was a $1b market cap stock in 2007 with more than $730m equity in 2013. Was the banks delusional? I would say their stress test was not robust enough given the volatility of oil prices. Then again if they were too strict then the sector cannot develop which is synergistic to Singapore's strategic interest of being O&G hub. If they do, it's too aggressive; if don't do, too conservative. Then path of least resistance is do nothing, like some of our neighbours.

We have to be mindful of both hindside and also foresight.
Before you speak, listen. Before you write, think. Before you spend, earn. Before you invest, investigate. Before you criticize, wait. Before you pray, forgive. Before you quit, try. Before you retire, save. Before you die, give. –William A. Ward

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Swiber Holdings - by Musicwhiz - 02-09-2011, 04:56 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Musicwhiz - 27-10-2011, 04:05 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Musicwhiz - 15-11-2011, 05:38 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Musicwhiz - 07-02-2012, 06:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Musicwhiz - 16-03-2012, 05:56 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Layman A - 14-05-2013, 03:01 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Musicwhiz - 14-05-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by greengiraffe - 14-05-2013, 05:55 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Wildreamz - 14-05-2013, 08:00 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Layman A - 15-05-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by GreedandFear - 15-05-2013, 04:58 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by Layman A - 28-07-2016, 07:17 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings Limited - by CityFarmer - 29-07-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 13-01-2014, 08:05 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 30-01-2014, 09:29 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 03-02-2014, 08:50 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by oys-ter - 07-02-2014, 11:09 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 07-02-2014, 12:42 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by minimax - 07-02-2014, 12:50 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 07-02-2014, 01:00 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by minimax - 07-02-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 07-02-2014, 01:46 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 07-02-2014, 01:36 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by oys-ter - 26-02-2014, 11:38 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 06-02-2014, 10:11 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Layman A - 06-02-2014, 10:36 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by minimax - 07-02-2014, 12:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 07-02-2014, 06:08 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 08-02-2014, 12:11 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 11-02-2014, 08:41 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 27-02-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Nick - 27-02-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 28-02-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 01-03-2014, 10:55 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 06-03-2014, 09:25 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 14-08-2014, 09:05 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 19-08-2014, 06:38 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 10-09-2014, 07:39 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 06-10-2014, 08:21 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 07-10-2014, 02:04 AM
Swiber Holdings - by opmi - 07-10-2014, 11:05 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 07-10-2014, 11:14 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 07-10-2014, 01:04 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 13-11-2014, 07:25 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 05-01-2015, 09:11 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Gaudente - 09-01-2015, 11:41 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 05-01-2015, 09:18 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 05-01-2015, 09:46 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 09-01-2015, 11:19 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 14-01-2015, 10:43 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by AQ. - 26-03-2015, 09:57 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by crabcrab - 14-04-2015, 07:11 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by EFG - 14-04-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by vesfreq - 14-04-2015, 10:40 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 21-04-2015, 04:27 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by kelvesy - 21-04-2015, 05:06 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by butcher - 21-04-2015, 06:36 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 04-08-2015, 08:56 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by greengiraffe - 24-08-2015, 10:34 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Gaudente - 24-08-2015, 02:52 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 08-07-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 24-07-2016, 12:38 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 25-07-2016, 10:23 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 26-07-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by desmondxyz - 28-07-2016, 08:26 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 28-07-2016, 08:48 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by opmi - 28-07-2016, 09:34 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by marandaz - 28-07-2016, 09:56 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by desmondxyz - 28-07-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 28-07-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by marandaz - 28-07-2016, 11:01 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 28-07-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 28-07-2016, 02:46 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 28-07-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by MINX - 28-07-2016, 03:04 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by marandaz - 28-07-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by desmondxyz - 28-07-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by marandaz - 28-07-2016, 05:46 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by yeokiwi - 28-07-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 28-07-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 28-07-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Behappyalways - 28-07-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 28-07-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by BlueKelah - 28-07-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 28-07-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 28-07-2016, 06:22 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 28-07-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 29-07-2016, 12:50 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 28-07-2016, 08:03 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 28-07-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 28-07-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by money - 28-07-2016, 10:50 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 28-07-2016, 09:47 PM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 29-07-2016, 12:23 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by TTTI - 29-07-2016, 01:25 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 29-07-2016, 04:38 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by whatamidoing - 29-07-2016, 11:58 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by corydorus - 29-07-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by money - 29-07-2016, 01:17 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 03-08-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by whatamidoing - 03-08-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Jacmar - 29-07-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 29-07-2016, 01:27 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Wildreamz - 29-07-2016, 09:57 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 30-07-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 29-07-2016, 04:17 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 29-07-2016, 06:26 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 29-07-2016, 05:43 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 29-07-2016, 08:29 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 30-07-2016, 06:48 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 01-08-2016, 09:42 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by BlueKelah - 29-07-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by yeokiwi - 29-07-2016, 06:04 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 29-07-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 29-07-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 29-07-2016, 07:23 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 29-07-2016, 07:40 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 29-07-2016, 07:53 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 30-07-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by wind22i - 29-07-2016, 09:41 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 29-07-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by desmondxyz - 29-07-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 29-07-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 30-07-2016, 07:45 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by newborn1000 - 30-07-2016, 10:40 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 30-07-2016, 03:12 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by donmihaihai - 30-07-2016, 03:49 PM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by whatamidoing - 30-07-2016, 03:32 PM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 01-08-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 01-08-2016, 11:21 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 01-08-2016, 11:30 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 01-08-2016, 06:53 PM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by BlueKelah - 03-08-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 04-08-2016, 03:30 PM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 06-08-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 08-08-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by corydorus - 07-08-2016, 08:02 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by Debronic - 07-08-2016, 10:56 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 07-08-2016, 10:55 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 08-08-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by corydorus - 07-08-2016, 10:20 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 08-08-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by whatamidoing - 08-08-2016, 08:45 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 08-08-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 12-08-2016, 09:09 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 05-09-2016, 03:53 PM
Swiber Holdings - by ksir - 06-09-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by d.o.g. - 07-09-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by donmihaihai - 24-09-2016, 04:23 PM
Swiber Holdings - by ksir - 07-09-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 07-09-2016, 07:23 PM
Swiber Holdings - by ksir - 07-09-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 08-09-2016, 09:31 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 08-09-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cfa - 08-09-2016, 09:34 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by corydorus - 08-09-2016, 09:05 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 08-09-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by corydorus - 08-09-2016, 10:10 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 14-09-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by brattzz - 14-09-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CityFarmer - 14-09-2016, 04:14 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by GPD - 14-09-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by BlueKelah - 14-09-2016, 10:45 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by specuvestor - 15-09-2016, 10:39 AM
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RE: Swiber Holdings - by touzi - 24-09-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cyclone - 31-10-2016, 06:05 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 14-10-2023, 02:32 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Shiyi - 14-10-2023, 08:13 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 08-07-2024, 04:45 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by cyclone - 16-11-2016, 05:31 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 06-12-2016, 05:39 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 06-12-2016, 06:25 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by dydx - 06-12-2016, 06:49 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Behappyalways - 31-12-2016, 07:30 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by weijian - 06-10-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by CY09 - 30-03-2019, 12:40 PM
RE: Swiber Holdings - by Behappyalways - 07-01-2020, 02:33 PM
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