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Looks like Qingmei is going to take another deep plunge soon...

(08-05-2012, 03:19 PM)Underdogger Wrote: [ -> ]it is dropping back down to 7 cents or even lower...not a good sign definitely...

People are just throwing down to the bidders desperately....hope they don’t trip over each other and cause a mad stampede.

Each share is backed by 12.5 cents of "solid cash" but yet Mr Market is valuing it at abt half the value...something is amiss??

I may throw in $100 bucks to buy 2 lots if it drops to 5 cents Smile it is exciting like going to a casino Smile
协议书显示,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,但喜伯登名下的陈埭镇洋埭村陈泉路903号厂房及变压器不在并购范围内;林金典、林裁治的儿子林清洪获得清美(中国)有限公司​20%的股权,但只能是隐名股东,同时补贴人民币900万元,并将苏清远名下的上市公司清美(控股)集团有限公司总股额5%(约合3200万股)的股票,转让至林清洪名下​.
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根据协议的约定,三方都应该保守合作机密,除非公司事务的必要,任何一方不得对外泄露有关事项及操作的任何细节,不得发布任何不利于对方的言论.


Correct me if I am wrong.....

Strange thing about this incident is that Qingmei did not make any announcements on this acquisition and that the deal involved transfer of shares by the significant shareholders and it was also not reported to SGX. The significant shareholder seems adamant to keep the whole issue a 'secret' which meant no need to inform shareholders or SGX about changes in his stake holdings of the company?

Strange that SGX is keeping quiet on this.....maybe SGX too busy with acquisitions......^^

now I can see why the other significant shareholder is dumping the shares.....

http://info.sgx.com/webcorannc.nsf/Annou...endocument


(08-05-2012, 05:31 PM)Curiousparty Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry my chinese was not good...but the article seems to say that company is embroiled in some dispute??


*****

清美鞋材"身陷"并购债务纠葛(2011-07-21)
核心提示
  在一桩遮遮掩掩的并购之后,晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司旗下的品牌"步之霸"门店突然大量关闭,生存遭遇创办以来最大的危机,引起了业界极大关注.近日,一份并购协议书的曝光,让这一并购事件渐渐地浮出水面.

  "现在很多供应商手上都有这份并购协议书,我实在没办法了,只能用它证明自己的清白."一年来,供应商一次又一次的催款,让晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司的原老板林金典再也坐不住了,他只能向前来催款的供应商出具一份去年7月11日签订的并购协议书.

  根据这份协议书,喜伯登体育用品有限公司、速龙体育用品有限公司,被清美(中国)有限公司并购,喜伯登、速龙出让全部公司财产(包括品牌、专卖网络、土地、设备及应收货款),债权债务归由清美承受.然而,其后产生的变故,让喜伯登、速龙、清美鞋材、供应商都始料未及.

债务纠葛 供应商催款遭推诿

  "今年1月份之前的材料款,不属于清美公司所欠."

  近日,一个名为"步之霸材供商"的网友在某网站论坛上"晒"自己的催款经历.根据这位网友的描述,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙后,他去清美公司要求对方还材料款时,被告知2011年1月份的材料款,清美公司会全部付清,而在此之前的材料款则不属于公司所欠.

  这一消息让他不解,以前和喜伯登往来账目所结材料款的欠条,都是盖喜伯登公司的公章,去年7月底,清美公司就将所有欠条转盖速龙公司公章.此后,他的材料款都无法按时排款,每次问清美财务人员,得到的答复都是要等老板的批示.

  昨日,在陈埭经营鞋材20多年的丁先生告诉记者,在并购发生之后,一开始他还不知情,照样供货,不料,拿到的欠条都变成了速龙的,在今年1月份以后,以前的喜伯登欠条也都换成了速龙的."当时快过年了,都拿不到钱,一打听才知道,喜伯登、速龙被清美收购了,双方还闹得不可开交."丁先生苦笑,手里的10多万货款,这半年来只拿到1万块钱.

  丁先生说,和他一样被拖欠货款的有200多人,"每天都有人到清美鞋材去要钱,我每次去都能碰到好几个."渐渐地,供货商们有了联系,相约一起去催要货款,张先生就是其中的一员,他被欠了100多万元的货款,"有时候能碰到老板,但还是拿不到钱",如果实在没办法,只能考虑到法院起诉了.记者了解到,并购之初,喜伯登、速龙的应付欠款就已经将近5000万元.

并购迷局 并购协议曝光

  "清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,林金典的儿子林清洪获得清美的部分股权."

  前日,记者联系上喜伯登的原老板林金典,他向记者提供了一份清美鞋材、喜伯登、速龙三家公司之间的重组并购协议及补充协议."现在很多供应商手上都有这份协议,我实在没办法了,只能用它证明自己的清白."

  这份<<公司并购重组协议书>>签于去年7月11日,甲方为清美(中国)有限公司,法人代表苏清远;乙方为晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司,法人代表为林金典;丙方为晋江速龙体育用品有限公司,法人代表为林裁治(林金典之妻).

  协议书显示,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,但喜伯登名下的陈埭镇洋埭村陈泉路903号厂房及变压器不在并购范围内;林金典、林裁治的儿子林清洪获得清美(中国)有限公司20%的股权,但只能是隐名股东,同时补贴人民币900万元,并将苏清远名下的上市公司清美(控股)集团有限公司总股额5%(约合3200万股)的股票,转让至林清洪名下.

  据此,林氏家族能够获得大约为价值7500万元的清美鞋材股权、现金900万元、总值约为3800万元的上市公司股票;喜伯登、速龙出让全部公司财产(包括品牌、专卖网络、土地、设备及应收货款),经核算净资产不应低于3000万元,原则上仍以原公司名称正常运营,但法人代表需要变更为清美鞋材指定的,债权债务也归由清美鞋材承受.

并购迷局 并购后纠纷四起

  "喜伯登、速龙的现金流之少和欠债数额之多,让清美始料未及."

  但纠纷很快出现,其后产生的变故让喜伯登、速龙、清美鞋材、供应商都始料未及.

  首先是资产核算,经过确认之后,清美鞋材发现喜伯登、速龙的净资产总额为700多万元,银行存款及现金为600多万元,应收账款为4460多万元,应付账款为4957多万元,这与清美鞋材之前掌握的信息相去甚远."最开始以为只有2000多万的欠款,没想到清算后翻了一倍,双方的矛盾就此埋下祸根."知情人士告诉记者,当时不知道出于什么原因,清美鞋材也认同了资产负债表,还签了<<重组并购补充协议(一)>>,承担了核算的债权债务.

  根据补充协议,2010年8月1日以后产生的所有原始凭证,喜伯登和速龙应保证其真实、完整,若有出入,应以现金形式补足差额.让林金典没有想到的是,从去年8月份开始,在清美鞋材进驻团队的操作下,所有供应商货款的欠条,全部转盖速龙的公章,"以前实际的操作都是喜伯登在做,速龙只是作为一个品牌存在,没有实际资金往来的运营",很快就把所有债务都转移到速龙的名下.此时,速龙的法人代表还是林金典的妻子林裁治.

  今年1月中旬,喜伯登、速龙的变更手续开始办理,据说中间发生了一个小插曲."我们双方都去了,一个上午就把两家公司的变更手续都办好,但清美鞋材的人中午又去把速龙的材料抽走."林金典称自己被吓出一身冷汗,就去行政审批中心询问,材料被追了回来;但这种说法被工作人员否认,"从程序上来说,这是不可能的,只有材料不足才会通知企业补充",并且喜伯登在1月18日、速龙在1月21日都完成了法人代表的变更.

各自回应

  根据并购协议,林金典夫妻原本可以安心养老;林清洪将在新组建的服饰鞋帽产业部出任总经理,继续自己的事业;清美鞋材也从鞋材供应商变身品牌运营商.但这只能建立在并购顺利的基础上,眼下双方都成了热锅上的蚂蚁,更无辜的是材料供应商,他们几十万、上百万的货款,眼看着就要被遥遥无期地拖欠了.

  林金典:"900万元现金,至今一毛钱没拿到"前日,在接受记者采访时,林金典连续好几次用到"一无所有"来形容自己的处境.

  林金典告诉记者,本该收到的900万元现金,至今一毛钱都没拿到;协议约定的陈埭镇陈泉路903号房产,也还没有过户到自己名下;本该属于儿子林清洪的股权、股票,至今还捏在清美鞋材手里,"等于这几十年都白干了".

  对于供应商的货款,林金典表示跟自己没有关系,一开始人家上门催,他还帮着挡一挡,但跟清美鞋材闹翻、眼看无法收场之后,他就拿出了并购协议,关于债权、债务写得很清楚.对于债务方面的出入,林金典也不认同,"我提出重新清算,但清美说赶时间,就算了,还签了协议,以后欠款由清美收,债务也由清美还".

  现在,供应商也都不找林金典了."一方面不该我来还钱,另一方面我也没钱还,现在只能维持一下生活."林金典认为自己和供应商地位一样,只不过他是要从清美鞋材拿到协议的900万现金,还有那没过户的房产.

  苏清远:"根据协议约定,三方都应保守机密"几经辗转,记者前日终于电话联系上了清美鞋材的法人代表苏清远.

  对于目前流传到社会上的并购协议,苏清远显然是清楚的,他在电话里的语气愤愤不平,"我自己行得正,就不怕被人把影子说歪了."根据协议的约定,三方都应该保守合作机密,除非公司事务的必要,任何一方不得对外泄露有关事项及操作的任何细节,不得发布任何不利于对方的言论.而从目前的情形看,苏清远对协议书满天飞显然大感吃惊.

  "现在事情都已经过去了,没必要再继续纠缠下去."对于三方的协议为何没有得到履行,苏清远选择了回避.而对于未来会如何处理并购产生的纠纷、与供应商之间的债务,他沉默一会儿后回答,"是非自有公论",然后挂断电话.但后来给记者发来一条短信:"事情最后会由法律主持公道,我不想没根据乱下结论".
Basically, vested investors should press company for an urgent update on this issue.
From my read of it, the issue has not been resolved as Qingmei may still be made liable for all the debts owed by Xibodeng. Creditors will try every means to hunt down Qingmei to make her pay up for Xibodeng's debt.

My sincere advice is RUN!
(09-05-2012, 11:34 AM)Behappyalways Wrote: [ -> ]协议书显示,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,但喜伯登名下的陈埭镇洋埭村陈泉路903号厂房及变压器不在并购范围内;林金典、林裁治的儿子林清洪获得清美(中国)有限公司​20%的股权,但只能是隐名股东,同时补贴人民币900万元,并将苏清远名下的上市公司清美(控股)集团有限公司总股额5%(约合3200万股)的股票,转让至林清洪名下​.
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根据协议的约定,三方都应该保守合作机密,除非公司事务的必要,任何一方不得对外泄露有关事项及操作的任何细节,不得发布任何不利于对方的言论.


Correct me if I am wrong.....

Strange thing about this incident is that Qingmei did not make any announcements on this acquisition and that the deal involved transfer of shares by the significant shareholders and it was also not reported to SGX. The significant shareholder seems adamant to keep the whole issue a 'secret' which meant no need to inform shareholders or SGX about changes in his stake holdings of the company?

Strange that SGX is keeping quiet on this.....maybe SGX too busy with acquisitions......^^

now I can see why the other significant shareholder is dumping the shares.....

http://info.sgx.com/webcorannc.nsf/Annou...endocument


(08-05-2012, 05:31 PM)Curiousparty Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry my chinese was not good...but the article seems to say that company is embroiled in some dispute??


*****

清美鞋材"身陷"并购债务纠葛(2011-07-21)
核心提示
  在一桩遮遮掩掩的并购之后,晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司旗下的品牌"步之霸"门店突然大量关闭,生存遭遇创办以来最大的危机,引起了业界极大关注.近日,一份并购协议书的曝光,让这一并购事件渐渐地浮出水面.

  "现在很多供应商手上都有这份并购协议书,我实在没办法了,只能用它证明自己的清白."一年来,供应商一次又一次的催款,让晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司的原老板林金典再也坐不住了,他只能向前来催款的供应商出具一份去年7月11日签订的并购协议书.

  根据这份协议书,喜伯登体育用品有限公司、速龙体育用品有限公司,被清美(中国)有限公司并购,喜伯登、速龙出让全部公司财产(包括品牌、专卖网络、土地、设备及应收货款),债权债务归由清美承受.然而,其后产生的变故,让喜伯登、速龙、清美鞋材、供应商都始料未及.

债务纠葛 供应商催款遭推诿

  "今年1月份之前的材料款,不属于清美公司所欠."

  近日,一个名为"步之霸材供商"的网友在某网站论坛上"晒"自己的催款经历.根据这位网友的描述,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙后,他去清美公司要求对方还材料款时,被告知2011年1月份的材料款,清美公司会全部付清,而在此之前的材料款则不属于公司所欠.

  这一消息让他不解,以前和喜伯登往来账目所结材料款的欠条,都是盖喜伯登公司的公章,去年7月底,清美公司就将所有欠条转盖速龙公司公章.此后,他的材料款都无法按时排款,每次问清美财务人员,得到的答复都是要等老板的批示.

  昨日,在陈埭经营鞋材20多年的丁先生告诉记者,在并购发生之后,一开始他还不知情,照样供货,不料,拿到的欠条都变成了速龙的,在今年1月份以后,以前的喜伯登欠条也都换成了速龙的."当时快过年了,都拿不到钱,一打听才知道,喜伯登、速龙被清美收购了,双方还闹得不可开交."丁先生苦笑,手里的10多万货款,这半年来只拿到1万块钱.

  丁先生说,和他一样被拖欠货款的有200多人,"每天都有人到清美鞋材去要钱,我每次去都能碰到好几个."渐渐地,供货商们有了联系,相约一起去催要货款,张先生就是其中的一员,他被欠了100多万元的货款,"有时候能碰到老板,但还是拿不到钱",如果实在没办法,只能考虑到法院起诉了.记者了解到,并购之初,喜伯登、速龙的应付欠款就已经将近5000万元.

并购迷局 并购协议曝光

  "清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,林金典的儿子林清洪获得清美的部分股权."

  前日,记者联系上喜伯登的原老板林金典,他向记者提供了一份清美鞋材、喜伯登、速龙三家公司之间的重组并购协议及补充协议."现在很多供应商手上都有这份协议,我实在没办法了,只能用它证明自己的清白."

  这份<<公司并购重组协议书>>签于去年7月11日,甲方为清美(中国)有限公司,法人代表苏清远;乙方为晋江喜伯登体育用品有限公司,法人代表为林金典;丙方为晋江速龙体育用品有限公司,法人代表为林裁治(林金典之妻).

  协议书显示,清美鞋材并购喜伯登、速龙,但喜伯登名下的陈埭镇洋埭村陈泉路903号厂房及变压器不在并购范围内;林金典、林裁治的儿子林清洪获得清美(中国)有限公司20%的股权,但只能是隐名股东,同时补贴人民币900万元,并将苏清远名下的上市公司清美(控股)集团有限公司总股额5%(约合3200万股)的股票,转让至林清洪名下.

  据此,林氏家族能够获得大约为价值7500万元的清美鞋材股权、现金900万元、总值约为3800万元的上市公司股票;喜伯登、速龙出让全部公司财产(包括品牌、专卖网络、土地、设备及应收货款),经核算净资产不应低于3000万元,原则上仍以原公司名称正常运营,但法人代表需要变更为清美鞋材指定的,债权债务也归由清美鞋材承受.

并购迷局 并购后纠纷四起

  "喜伯登、速龙的现金流之少和欠债数额之多,让清美始料未及."

  但纠纷很快出现,其后产生的变故让喜伯登、速龙、清美鞋材、供应商都始料未及.

  首先是资产核算,经过确认之后,清美鞋材发现喜伯登、速龙的净资产总额为700多万元,银行存款及现金为600多万元,应收账款为4460多万元,应付账款为4957多万元,这与清美鞋材之前掌握的信息相去甚远."最开始以为只有2000多万的欠款,没想到清算后翻了一倍,双方的矛盾就此埋下祸根."知情人士告诉记者,当时不知道出于什么原因,清美鞋材也认同了资产负债表,还签了<<重组并购补充协议(一)>>,承担了核算的债权债务.

  根据补充协议,2010年8月1日以后产生的所有原始凭证,喜伯登和速龙应保证其真实、完整,若有出入,应以现金形式补足差额.让林金典没有想到的是,从去年8月份开始,在清美鞋材进驻团队的操作下,所有供应商货款的欠条,全部转盖速龙的公章,"以前实际的操作都是喜伯登在做,速龙只是作为一个品牌存在,没有实际资金往来的运营",很快就把所有债务都转移到速龙的名下.此时,速龙的法人代表还是林金典的妻子林裁治.

  今年1月中旬,喜伯登、速龙的变更手续开始办理,据说中间发生了一个小插曲."我们双方都去了,一个上午就把两家公司的变更手续都办好,但清美鞋材的人中午又去把速龙的材料抽走."林金典称自己被吓出一身冷汗,就去行政审批中心询问,材料被追了回来;但这种说法被工作人员否认,"从程序上来说,这是不可能的,只有材料不足才会通知企业补充",并且喜伯登在1月18日、速龙在1月21日都完成了法人代表的变更.

各自回应

  根据并购协议,林金典夫妻原本可以安心养老;林清洪将在新组建的服饰鞋帽产业部出任总经理,继续自己的事业;清美鞋材也从鞋材供应商变身品牌运营商.但这只能建立在并购顺利的基础上,眼下双方都成了热锅上的蚂蚁,更无辜的是材料供应商,他们几十万、上百万的货款,眼看着就要被遥遥无期地拖欠了.

  林金典:"900万元现金,至今一毛钱没拿到"前日,在接受记者采访时,林金典连续好几次用到"一无所有"来形容自己的处境.

  林金典告诉记者,本该收到的900万元现金,至今一毛钱都没拿到;协议约定的陈埭镇陈泉路903号房产,也还没有过户到自己名下;本该属于儿子林清洪的股权、股票,至今还捏在清美鞋材手里,"等于这几十年都白干了".

  对于供应商的货款,林金典表示跟自己没有关系,一开始人家上门催,他还帮着挡一挡,但跟清美鞋材闹翻、眼看无法收场之后,他就拿出了并购协议,关于债权、债务写得很清楚.对于债务方面的出入,林金典也不认同,"我提出重新清算,但清美说赶时间,就算了,还签了协议,以后欠款由清美收,债务也由清美还".

  现在,供应商也都不找林金典了."一方面不该我来还钱,另一方面我也没钱还,现在只能维持一下生活."林金典认为自己和供应商地位一样,只不过他是要从清美鞋材拿到协议的900万现金,还有那没过户的房产.

  苏清远:"根据协议约定,三方都应保守机密"几经辗转,记者前日终于电话联系上了清美鞋材的法人代表苏清远.

  对于目前流传到社会上的并购协议,苏清远显然是清楚的,他在电话里的语气愤愤不平,"我自己行得正,就不怕被人把影子说歪了."根据协议的约定,三方都应该保守合作机密,除非公司事务的必要,任何一方不得对外泄露有关事项及操作的任何细节,不得发布任何不利于对方的言论.而从目前的情形看,苏清远对协议书满天飞显然大感吃惊.

  "现在事情都已经过去了,没必要再继续纠缠下去."对于三方的协议为何没有得到履行,苏清远选择了回避.而对于未来会如何处理并购产生的纠纷、与供应商之间的债务,他沉默一会儿后回答,"是非自有公论",然后挂断电话.但后来给记者发来一条短信:"事情最后会由法律主持公道,我不想没根据乱下结论".

Lucky I got out in the feeding frenzy last week. Those who didnt sell were hoping for higher price but the syndicates are clever as they know most retail investors are stuck abt 18 cts. Typical pump and dump. Don't think I'd touch this again unless another super crash. Wait for the 3Q results today, but may not mean anything as unaudited.
have to say a Big Thank You to Curiousparty for bringing the news article to the attention of forummers or else more unsuspecting investors will fall prey...

Our dear SGX has always been well-known for being "taken for a ride by XXXX to Wonderland"...

Look at the way they drive buses in spore. Although this might be too sweeping a statement, it aptly sums up their general attitudes in lives...morality has been lost..



Even the Chairman/CEO/Founder himself was trying to reduce his share of Qingmei by selling down to reduce the REAL liability...

Even if one got the shares at 5 cents is besides the point, it is meaningless to hold a counter that does not uphold corporate ethics and responsibility to its investors.


(09-05-2012, 12:02 PM)cosmic Wrote: [ -> ]Lucky I got out in the feeding frenzy last week. Those who didnt sell were hoping for higher price but the syndicates are clever as they know most retail investors are stuck abt 18 cts. Typical pump and dump. Don't think I'd touch this again unless another super crash. Wait for the 3Q results today, but may not mean anything as unaudited.
The question is we do not know how deep the "debt hole" was for Xibodeng!
it could be 10mil RMB or it can be 100mil RMB...
Hi guys, please take note that xibodeng was purchased by Chairman SU personally, not by Qingmei. So the business failure of Xibodeng did not affect Qingmei and shareholders directly, though Mr Su's reputation was slightly affected. THis is a rare opportunity to buy QIngmei on the cheap as market over-reacted to his personal business setback. He sold 16% of his shares to buy his debt related to Xibodeng. It does not relate to the business operations and finances of Qingmei at all. Please check Qingmei thread at Next Insight for more in-depth discussion on this matter.
The 3Q results of Qingmei are out:

Qingmei records net profit of RMB174 million for 9MFY12
 Group remains profitable despite poor market conditions affecting demand
 Healthy balance sheet with zero debts, cash per share as at 31 March 2012
was RMB 69.1 cents ( approx SGD 13.83 cents)
 Gross profit margin rises 0.4 percentage points to 29.3% due to cost savings from economies of scale
(09-05-2012, 10:38 PM)peterlynch Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys, please take note that xibodeng was purchased by Chairman SU personally, not by Qingmei. So the business failure of Xibodeng did not affect Qingmei and shareholders directly, though Mr Su's reputation was slightly affected. THis is a rare opportunity to buy QIngmei on the cheap as market over-reacted to his personal business setback. He sold 16% of his shares to buy his debt related to Xibodeng. It does not relate to the business operations and finances of Qingmei at all. Please check Qingmei thread at Next Insight for more in-depth discussion on this matter.
The 3Q results of Qingmei are out:

Qingmei records net profit of RMB174 million for 9MFY12
 Group remains profitable despite poor market conditions affecting demand
 Healthy balance sheet with zero debts, cash per share as at 31 March 2012
was RMB 69.1 cents ( approx SGD 13.83 cents)
 Gross profit margin rises 0.4 percentage points to 29.3% due to cost savings from economies of scale

For 3rd Quarter, revenue plunges 54.6%, while profit plunges by 81.3%.

"The decrease in revenue for 3QFY12 versus 3QFY11 was mainly due to (i) the slow down in
domestic market demand for our products due to the intensified competition and consolidation
downstream business, and (ii) our customers became more prudent when placing their orders
for our products under current market conditions."

Cash increases due to a huge cut of PPE purchase from RMB 162 million to RMB 47 million.

As usual, when the quarter result is bad, company will use 9m results to show a better result...
there was already a profit warning so this is no surprise. actually this is some sort of a good news, at least it shows (to some extent) that the books are not cooked. If there is false accountings, it wont show 3Q revenue and profits dropped by so much. i am quite relieve actually.
(09-05-2012, 11:16 PM)peterlynch Wrote: [ -> ]there was already a profit warning so this is no surprise. actually this is some sort of a good news, at least it shows (to some extent) that the books are not cooked. If there is false accountings, it wont show 3Q revenue and profits dropped by so much. i am quite relieve actually.

one cooks the book by (1) issuing fake sales invoices, (2) false bank statements stating their cash position - I am nt sure hw "poor results" will prevent that from happening? (to even the slightest extent). Finally, there are alot of crooks in china, n they r much clever than the avg masses, that is for sure.
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