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Who is not afraid of new, unknown, untested political party taking over the GOV? But there are such thing such as < then 2/3 majority of the main party in parliament? If not Sinkaporeans will forever be a rubber-stamped society. LPPL, PLLP, forever. Then please don't complain.
The trick is how to ensure main party is voted in just less than 2/3? Anyone got any idea?
If in not wrong, govt supposed to be independent of any political and they are always there regardless whichever party taking over the top office. Is just that here the lines become blurred, er have govt servants acting like they are from one party
Govt is formed by the winning political party in a general election - how can be independent? What you probably mean is the civil service; and yes they are suppose to work with the Govt of the day.
The fact is , for reason they know best many CSs join as member of the political party, active in RC ,CCC, PA or whatever organisations that link to the party.
Do you have the fact - as in how many % of PAP members are from CS, Stat Board, PA, etc?
(25-07-2013, 06:50 AM)yeokiwi Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:i am wondering what is really happening to our public service's integrity and sense of purpose?

Public services are made up of sons and daughters of Singapore. And, these sons and daughters are raised by the Singaporean parents that pass them the moral values.
So, in general, the failures of the public service's integrity are traced back to the parents.
And the ultimate question is, did the parents do their job in educating the kids?

You can't expect an employer to assess a young aspiring man/woman of their integrity in three interviews. Or teach them moral values at the age of 25, 35 or 45.

I have to agree on this... sadly, our daughters and sons of singapore are slowly being eroded on core values...due to many economical reasons...

Maybe singapore has started losing it's singaporean core some years back.... now it's starting to show...

:O
In my opinion, it is ONE thing to raise salary of civil servants so as to curb corruption.
It is another thing to use high salary to attract "talents".

I guess most people would agree that passion alone is not enough to keep our civil servants from being corrupted.
They must be compensated well enough.

But when civil servants joined the government due to the high salary ALONE (way above private sector), you are attracting a wrong group of people. Now, we are starting to see the results.

More frightening, are we seeing just the tip of the iceberg?
(25-07-2013, 11:01 AM)brattzz Wrote: [ -> ]
(25-07-2013, 06:50 AM)yeokiwi Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:i am wondering what is really happening to our public service's integrity and sense of purpose?

Public services are made up of sons and daughters of Singapore. And, these sons and daughters are raised by the Singaporean parents that pass them the moral values.
So, in general, the failures of the public service's integrity are traced back to the parents.
And the ultimate question is, did the parents do their job in educating the kids?

You can't expect an employer to assess a young aspiring man/woman of their integrity in three interviews. Or teach them moral values at the age of 25, 35 or 45.

I have to agree on this... sadly, our daughters and sons of singapore are slowly being eroded on core values...due to many economical reasons...

Maybe singapore has started losing it's singaporean core some years back.... now it's starting to show...

:O

Agree. But leaders set the culture. The idea of casinos and focus on PnL (ie what's in it for me) during the Goh era eroded the values, or the so-called confucius values, which we built up. The influx of foreigners basically destroyed the gracious society and courtesy campaigns of 40 years. Policy making is extremely important.

The principles have to be right in the first place, which is what camelking is saying. Wrong principles with short term gain will lead to long tern pain.
Years ago , one of our prominent leader openly said, if CSs' salaries were not high , they would resort to corruption. Perhaps it is about time to hike their salaries again, otherwise more will commit corruption.
no leaders.. left LEEders.... Tongue
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