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(29-09-2012, 03:14 PM)pianist Wrote: [ -> ]why dun he try the 80m wedding bounty to convert that tycoon's gay daughter?

#! /bin/sh

# Mr Gaw script for Audi R8 Coupe, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG and Honda CR-Z
# Version: 3

trap 'echo "Never give up!"' 1 2 15

while true
do
until who | egrep [sponsors | rich*]
do
sleep 5
if make love_to_GiGi then
echo "Use my bounty to buy my car\!"
exit 0
fi
done | awk '\
/^sponsors/ { echo "Got my car\!"; exit 0 }
/^rich*/ { echo "keep contact number and try to convert " $1 " to sponsor." '
done }

(29-09-2012, 10:41 AM)Bibi Wrote: [ -> ]I thought this guy has a higher chance to make it big compared to others. It is the dont care what other pp think and just do what you want to do traits that can make one succeed. Sales pp are also very thick skin and they are also the ones who are most successful.

Agree with you. With this kind of attitude, he can really go far. He's willing to test the improbable and he's not afraid of rejection.

Personally, I would rather not my son succeed in this manner... I would personally feel very ashamed by this, he has a 不劳而获，mentality,and even if he succeed through this manner, how sustainable could it be? How appreciative would he be be of his success that is made possible by short cuts? I would be proud of myson if he gets rejected doing sales but 坚持到底，because that is still hard work... MHO only

i wonder is he really the type of 坚持到底，or just want be "infamous publicly?" But in this world, you really need to be "thick-skin' to survive. i mean if you want something go and get it by hook or by crook. It will never fall from the sky onto your lap. Even like striking rich by "luck".

I could imagine if he had succeeded, the residents in all high class districts will be flooded with pleading letters for cars, condos, iphones, cash, travels.

But, what is the difference between his action and parents leaving a huge inheritance to normal kids?

(30-09-2012, 10:19 AM)Greenrookie Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I would rather not my son succeed in this manner... I would personally feel very ashamed by this, he has a 不劳而获，mentality,and even if he succeed through this manner, how sustainable could it be? How appreciative would he be be of his success that is made possible by short cuts? I would be proud of myson if he gets rejected doing sales but 坚持到底，because that is still hard work... MHO only

I share your view fully

The effort is commendable, but not his mentality.

Base on the article, he seem believe in 不劳而获 (free lunch). If succeed, it will be harmful to his future career/life.

Let me weigh in with my opinions on this young man; sorry to say I do not agree with the views of some of the forummers within the thread about him being able to make it in the world because he has a thick skin and is not afraid of rejection.

My thoughts:-

1) The fact that he asked for something and offered nothing in return gave the impression that he's audacious enough to assume that things in this world can be obtained without any effort - essentially I see this as a trait of the lazy. If you want a car so badly, get a job, work hard and EARN it yourself.

2) He approached Sentosa Cove people, knowing that these are the ultra-rich, but the tone of his letter was more of begging/pleading rather than requesting. Sorry but to me this sounds a bit like grovelling/snivelling, if you will. It's like a case of "oh I really want this so badly that I don't mind stooping so low just to try to get it". Reeks of bad upbringing.

3) He displays an entitlement mentality, pure and simple - what has he done to even deserve such an expensive item? If it was a more reasonable request like to help out a friend in need (therefore needng $$) or for charity, it would have been more sympathetically viewed. But the fact that he was asking for a car, and a sports car at that, which costs $100,000++, is tantamount of absurdity.

4) He stays in probably a landed property and his parents sound reasonably well-off (property business), so to me it seems unnecessary to ask strangers for such a large item - it could be the case that his parents are not willing to "sponsor" him, so he has to resort to this.

5) Regarding tenacity and ability to show a thick skin the face of failure, I can understand if it comes from the point of view of building a business. To give an example, Ron Sim when starting his health equipment business went door to door selling these products, and had to endure tons of rejections, angry faces and probably even foul language. In the end, he persisted and is now the CEO of a multi-million dollar business listed on SGX. This is the kind of tenacity and hard work, and entrepreneurial spirit we should learn from. I seriously don't see what such a letter can teach us in terms of being bold or hardworking. As he said, it only takes probably 5 minutes and 5 cents per letter. Not really hard work at all.

On a side note, it is beyond me how an established newspaper (not tabloid) could run this story on the front page of a major section of the newspaper.

Good discussion. I still think his opportunistic attitude will take him far. And by that I mean materially. I've nothing good to say about character building though. Certainly not the means I would want my own children to adopt to achieve their ends.

(30-09-2012, 04:45 PM)Muck Wrote: [ -> ]Good discussion. I still think his opportunistic attitude will take him far. And by that I mean materially. I've nothing good to say about character building though. Certainly not the means I would want my own children to adopt to achieve their ends.

Simply put this is a "by hook or by crook" mentality. As long as he achieves what he wants, he doesn't really cares a hoot.This is a very dangerous attitude towards himself and society.

a lot of 'get rich quick mentality' in singapore...that why a lot of property / insurance agents these days..this is what our economy is going towards...really dangerous..