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Saizen Reits doesnt look like a good buy now...

limited upside ?

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AmFraser downgrades Saizen REIT to 'hold' as yen depreciates


Analyst: Eileen Goh

· Bearing short-term pain. Amid aggressive monetary easing measures by the Bank of Japan (BoJ) in a bid to jumpstart its stuttering economy and end deflation, the Japanese Yen has experienced substantial depreciatory pressures in recent months.


Saizen REIT has outperformed the market benchmark index over the past 12 months. The Japanese Yen has weakened from JPY/S$64.6 in May 2012 to JPY/S$80.3 currently. Due to a weakening yen, Saizen REIT will inevitably have to bear the near-term pain of a declining NAV and distributions in S$ terms.


· Upgrade TP to S$0.220, Downgrade to HOLD. Despite our higher revised target price of S$0.220, we downgrade our call to HOLD given the limited scope for capital upside from current valuations.

Based on our revised FV of S$0.220, this represents a potential capital upside of only 5.8%.


Saizen REIT’s recent price appreciation and the impact of a weaker yen have also dampened its attractiveness as a high yield play. We project Saizen REIT’s FY13 yield at 5.9%. This translates to approx. 450 basis points over the risk-free rate, leaving little room for comfort once interest rates begin to tick up.
how do u know whether the asset manager is taking more than their fair share of management fee?
Is there an industry wide rate for management fee for REIT?

Tks.
Housing Prices in Japan will continue falling. Any REITS relating to Japan - Good luck. I would rather avoid them like plague or short them..

No propsect at all. Saizen Reit has fallen from IPO $1 to just $0.15....it deserves it.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...e12092365/

Japan’s economy is doomed by the irreversible forces of its demographics. It is a simple observation that a decline in the population of a country causes its economy to contract. In Japan’s case, that contraction is advanced by the way the working-age population is declining (by aging), by the debt burden of the nation, and by changes in the competitiveness of the world around it. Simple economic analysis leads to the conclusion that Japan is destined to suffer declining prices as it contracts.

We can predict with confidence that Japan’s economy will contract and that prices will fall for at least the next 15 years. Investors who have been betting on Japanese stocks cannot bet on long-run growth of the companies they are buying, or on increasing profits.

We recognize that up until Thursday’s sharp selloff in Japanese equities, the bet on the Nikkei had paid off handsomely for those brave enough to go there. However, we believe that the surge of equity prices in Japan in the past several months was a short-term pop that cannot be sustained by fundamentals for very long. Abenomics cannot defeat demographic doom.

Demographics of Doom, explained

The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research projects that Japan’s working-age population will decline over the next 17 years, to 67.7 million people by 2030 from 81.7 million in 2010. We select 2030 as the endpoint of today’s discussion because almost all the people who will be in the working-age population by 2030, 17 years from now, have been born already. Immigration and emigration are trivial. The 17-per-cent decline in the working-age population is a certainty, not a forecast. It averages out to a decline of 0.9 per cent a year. In addition, these official projections show a rise in the population aged over 64 to 36.9 million in 2030 from 29.5 million in 2010. If the labour-force participation rate stays constant, we estimate the number of people seeking work in the economy will fall to 56.5 million by 2030 from 65.5 million today and 66 million in 2010.

What happens when a nation’s population declines and the proportion of working-age people decreases? In the first, simplest, level of analysis, the production potential of the economy declines: Fewer workers can produce fewer goods. This does not mean GDP must decline; productivity gains could offset a decline in the labour force. Also, an increase in the labour-force participation rate could mute the effect of a declining working-age population. However, even if the labour force participation rate were to rise to 100 per cent by 2030 from 81 per cent today (which it cannot, because some people have to care for the old and the young, and some are disabled or lack adequate skills or education), there would be fewer workers available in 2030 than there are today.

With fewer people working, the burden of servicing the public-sector debt will be higher for each individual worker. We project that the debt-to-GDP ratio and the debt-per-worker ratio will grow unabated over the next 17 years and beyond. Also, the rise of the ratio of retired workers to 32 per cent of the population from 23 per cent means that people who are still working in 2030 will have to give up a rising share of their income to support retirees. The disposable income of the declining number of workers will fall faster than the decline of production and employment. Overall demand of workers will decrease – with their disposable income – faster than output for the next 17 years at least. Demand will also fall as new retirees spend less than in their earning years.

Based on demographic factors alone, the decline of aggregate demand between now and 2030 will exceed the decline of output, creating persistent and widening excess capacity in the economy. Prices must fall in an economy where slack is steadily increasing. In addition, advancing technology will likely increase output per worker in the future. With overall demand and output falling, productivity gains will lower labour costs and add to downward pressure on prices. Disinflation and deflation are the companions of demographic decline.

With the public-sector debt service burden absorbing an increasing amount of declining private savings, and with more of those savings being used to support the aging population, savings available to fund investment are declining. In any case, who needs to build more factories or invest to raise productivity to make fewer goods and services for a shrinking population? Investment, already falling for the past 15 years, will drop more in the years ahead.

Why did the Nikkei rally so much?

We believe that a rush of domestic cash out of the Japanese government bond (JGB) market is behind the Nikkei’s rise since Japan’s December election. Prime Minister Abe and Bank of Japan Governor Kuroda have pledged to “do whatever it takes” to achieve 2 per cent inflation in two years. If you believe that, then JGB yields are unsustainable even at present levels. Marginal money will stay away from bonds, and some private investors – and most foreigners – will move cash out of fixed income anticipating that bond yields must rise. With the return on cash negligible, money will go to work either in equities or abroad. So domestic cash flows induced by official efforts to end deflation boosted the Nikkei, trashed bonds and weakened the yen – temporarily.

On our outlook, the 23-year decline in the Nikkei – it is still down 62 per cent from its December, 1989 high – will extend. Neither Abenomics nor the Bank of Japan’s QQME policy can defeat this: Demographics doom Japan to dismal deflation and economic depression. This is no place to bet on equities in the long term

Carl Weinberg is the founder and chief economist of High Frequency Economics, an independent economic research firm based in Valhalla, N.Y. www.hifreqecon.com



I dont think it is under-valued. There is no way for Japan to ever escape from its deflationary spiral. Yen weakening will not help eventually.

House prices will continue to fall until the day Japan becomes extinct.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-asi...xtinction/
(23-10-2010, 01:28 AM)Zelphon Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-10-2010, 11:50 PM)piggo Wrote: [ -> ]I'm vested because I feel amongst the reits listed in SGX, this one has the best chance for capital growth with reasonable (average) dividend yield.

The recent property sales (at an average discount of 4% of valuation) were "forced" by the CMBS loansharks. They had to sell the properties to avoid foreclosure which would be more undesirable. To me, a 4% discount at the current economic climate in Japan is quite reasonable, besides even if you discount all their properties at 10%, the current unit price is still at a steep discount to their NAV. It's also a sign that the properties they are holding are not illiquid.

Anyway to summarise, the worse case scenario (short of acts of god) at the current unit price if 15.5c would be relatively stable dividend yield of 6-7%. Anything positive like better credit rating, increase in rental or Japan finally making a recovery would be a bonus.

(23-10-2010, 01:17 AM)ag88 Wrote: [ -> ]looking at the last balance sheet: NAV is 26.16 yen - 31 mar 2010, 26.05 yen - 30 jun 2009

using an exchange rate of 68 yen - 1 sgd
that gives about: sgd 38 cents
and it is trading at 16 cents today, price to book ratio: 42%
did i calculate correctly?

if true i've bot a gem Big Grin

IT IS TRUE..

IT IS THE MOST UNDERVALUED UNNOTICED GEM IN SGX...
Amazing.... 2H DPU = 0.63ct (same as last year), only a slight drop from 1H DPU = 0.66ct. JPY must have weakened against S$ by ~10% during that Half Year. Going to get a headache trying to figure out how they did it.... At the same, they have proposed a 5-to-1 Unit Consolidation.

Financials
Presentations
Unit Consolidation
(22-08-2013, 07:05 PM)KopiKat Wrote: [ -> ]JPY must have weakened against S$ by ~10% during that Half Year. Going to get a headache trying to figure out how they did it....

Maybe they had a currency hedging strategy similar to PLife REIT?
Has anyone worked out the RNAV of Saizen taking into account the most recent market valuation?

The latest NAV = 25 cents (SGD). Is this also the RNAV?
(22-08-2013, 09:17 PM)Stockerman Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone worked out the RNAV of Saizen taking into account the most recent market valuation?

The latest NAV = 25 cents (SGD). Is this also the RNAV?

I suppose so since they did the latest valuations on 30-Jun-13, posted in today's SGX Annc.



Dividend Warrior Wrote:Maybe they had a currency hedging strategy similar to PLife REIT?

Partly... they hedged for the Distributions, from Presentations (pg9),

Distribution payment for the six-month period ended 30 June 2013 hedged at an average rate of JPY75.12/S$, while distribution payment for the six-month period ending 31 December 2013 hedged at an average rate of JPY81.15/S$
they are proposing a share consolidation of 5 existing share to 1
Any VB sifu heading to their AGM on 30th Oct ?

Never been to an AGM, curious.
Hi, I am sifu, but I have gone to their AGM. I gain quite a lot of insights from there. I spoke to the CFO and hear what their plans are. Actually, if you really want to know the "real" stories, Don't head towards the buffet table during break. Go talk to the management. It is better to ask directly to the management outside the formal AGM proceedings.
I think if you like a company with good fundamental and is conservative in nature, this may be one of your consideration. More detail report of AGM in my blog here: http://www.myweekendinvestment.com/uniqu...izen-reit/

(I am vested hor)
(17-10-2013, 10:30 AM)Snoopy168 Wrote: [ -> ]Any VB sifu heading to their AGM on 30th Oct ?

Never been to an AGM, curious.
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