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I am also a buyer today.
As the country sings majulah next week, let's wish our vested counters also majulah

Anyway, T+3 is many days away due to weekend and public holiday.

I am a buyer today too... !
Majulah Singapore!!!

if biz is still sound, take good opportunity to load up!!

there is still very little information on what is happening. the american market just crashed all of a sudden, for no apparent reason. there has been fears of double dip, european and american debt issues, ongoing for months. these are big problems, does the market only react now? what's new? or is there something the public is unaware of?

my personal opinion is that the sell-off should have taken place months ago, when stocks kept rising while economic fundamentals stagnated. now the QE bubble has been pricked. a realistic level for dow is probably around 9.5k, and for sti probably around 2.6k. oil should be trading around usd70/bbl.

the question is whether there really is a recession around the corner. if so, whatever good business you have will surely be devalued (vicom is the only one i know of that escaped the 08 crisis). there are no fundamentals to speak of, in a recession. except perhaps the defensive sectors. until we have more information on what is going on, i think it is still too early to decide on any buy/sell.

(05-08-2011, 03:12 PM)flinger Wrote: [ -> ]Also,you must believe in the company you are investing in, If you don't believe in the company then when the market gets very jittery, you start to get fear and want to sell it. If however, you have confidence in the company and believe in it, then you should be be able maybe buy more provided you have the capital and can hold on for the storm to pass .

(05-08-2011, 07:16 PM)karlmarx Wrote: [ -> ]there is still very little information on what is happening. the american market just crashed all of a sudden, for no apparent reason. there has been fears of double dip, european and american debt issues, ongoing for months. these are big problems, does the market only react now? what's new? or is there something the public is unaware of?

my personal opinion is that the sell-off should have taken place months ago, when stocks kept rising while economic fundamentals stagnated. now the QE bubble has been pricked. a realistic level for dow is probably around 9.5k, and for sti probably around 2.6k. oil should be trading around usd70/bbl.

the question is whether there really is a recession around the corner. if so, whatever good business you have will surely be devalued (vicom is the only one i know of that escaped the 08 crisis). there are no fundamentals to speak of, in a recession. except perhaps the defensive sectors. until we have more information on what is going on, i think it is still too early to decide on any buy/sell.

I feel that STI is being propped up artifically for so long... And yet Capitaland and CapitalaMalls Asia is being hammered ridiculously for a long time...

These 2 index stocks are still making profits and growing in China !!!

Why??

Big hands are manipulating the market and indices...

Bloomberg

U.S. Rating Cut by S&P on Deficit Reduction Pact
By John Detrixhe - Aug 5, 2011

The U.S. had its AAA credit rating downgraded for the first time by Standard & Poor’s on concern spending cuts agreed on by lawmakers to raise the nation’s borrowing limit won’t be enough to reduce record deficits.

S&P dropped the ranking one level to AA+, after warning on July 14 that it would reduce the rating in the absence of a “credible” plan to lower deficits even if the nation’s $14.3 trillion debt limit was lifted. The U.S. was awarded the top credit ranking by New York-based S&P in 1941. It kept the outlook at “negative.”

‘The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s medium-term debt dynamics,” S&P said in a statement today.

Demand for Treasuries has surged even with the specter of a downgrade as investors saw few alternatives to the traditional refuge during times of risk as concern increased global growth is slowing and Europe’s sovereign debt crisis is spreading. The action could still hurt the U.S. economy over time by increasing the cost of mortgages, auto loans and other types of lending tied to the interest rates paid on Treasuries. JPMorgan Chase & Co. estimated that a downgrade would raise the nation’s borrowing costs by $100 billion a year.
Moody’s, Fitch

“It’s a reflection of the fact that we haven’t done enough to get our fiscal house in the order,” Anthony Valeri, market strategist in San Diego at LPL Financial, which oversees $340 billion, said in an interview before the downgrade. “Sovereign credit quality is going to remain under pressure for years to come.”

Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings affirmed their AAA credit ratings on Aug. 2, the day President Barack Obama signed a bill that ended the debt-ceiling impasse that pushed the Treasury to the edge of default. Moody’s and Fitch also said that downgrades were possible if lawmakers fail to enact debt reduction measures and the economy weakens.

The measure raised the nation’s debt ceiling until 2013 and threatens automatic spending cuts to enforce $2.4 trillion in spending reductions over the next 10 years.

S&P put the U.S. government on notice on April 18 that it risks losing its AAA rating unless lawmakers agree on a plan by 2013 to reduce budget deficits and the national debt. S&P indicated last month that anything less than $4 trillion in cuts would jeopardize the rating.
‘Grand Bargain’

“A grand bargain of that nature would signal the seriousness of policy makers to address the fiscal situation in the U.S.,” John Chambers, chairman of S&P’s sovereign rating committee, said in a video interview distributed by the ratings firm on July 28.

Obama has said a rating cut may hurt the broader economy by increasing consumer borrowing costs tied to Treasury rates. An increase in Treasury yields of 50 basis points would reduce U.S. economic growth by about 0.4 percentage points, JPMorgan said in a report, citing Federal Reserve research and data.

“The hope is that we could keep Treasuries pure, limited to interest rate risk,” Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive and co-chief investment officer at Pacific Investment Management Co., said in a Bloomberg Television interview before the announcement. “The minute you start downgrading away from AAA, you take small steps toward credit risk and that is something any country would like to avoid.”
Relative Yields

Treasury yields average about 0.70 percentage point less than the rest of the world’s sovereign debt markets, Bank of America Merrill Lynch indexes show. The difference has expanded from 0.15 percentage point in January.

Investors from China to the U.K. are lending money to the U.S. government for a decade at the lowest rates of the year. For many of them, there are few alternatives outside the U.S., no matter what its credit rating.

“Yields are low in the face of a downgrade because there is nowhere else for people to go if they don’t buy Treasuries because they want to be in safe dollar assets,” Carl Lantz, head of interest-rate strategy at Credit Suisse Group AG, one of 20 primary dealers that trade directly with the Federal Reserve, said before the announcement.

Ten-year Treasury yields fell to as low as 2.33 percent in New York, the least since October.
Bond Dealers

The committee of bond dealers and investors that advises the U.S. Treasury said the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency “appears to be slipping” in quarterly feedback presented to the government on Aug. 3. The U.S. currency’s portion of global currency reserves dropped to 60.7 percent in the period ended March 31, from a peak of 72.7 percent in 2001, International Monetary Fund data show.

“The idea of a reserve currency is that it is built on strength, not typically that it is ‘best among poor choices’,” page 35 of the presentation made by one member of the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, which includes representatives from firms ranging from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to Pimco. “The fact that there are not currently viable alternatives to the U.S. dollar is a hollow victory and perhaps portends a deteriorating fate.”

Members of the TBAC, as the committee is known, which met Aug. 2 in Washington, also discussed the implications of a downgrade of the U.S. sovereign credit rating. “None of the members thought that a downgrade was imminent,” according to minutes of the meeting released by the Treasury.

A U.S. credit-rating cut would likely raise the nation’s borrowing costs by increasing Treasury yields by 60 basis points to 70 basis points over the “medium term,” JPMorgan’s Terry Belton said on a July 26 conference call hosted by the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association. The U.S. spent $414 billion on interest expense in fiscal 2010, or 2.7 percent of gross domestic product, according to Treasury Department data.

“That impact on Treasury rates is significant,” Belton, global head of fixed-income strategy at JPMorgan, said during the call. “That $100 billion a year is money being used for higher interest rates and that’s money being taken away from other goods and services.”

To contact the reporter on this story: John Detrixhe in New York at jdetrixhe1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Dave Liedtka at dliedtka@bloomberg.net

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I am not a i/r expert etc........but downgrades cant be good right?

Today is another bad day.........how are you guys holding up?

Not vested.......

National Day Celebration mah. So must have sea of reds.

still buying and selling...
I believe this is just a correction.
I hope it drop more!

35% cash.

eh... US can always print money and fulfill its debt obligations.
Unlike a bank that will bankrupt if there is a bank run.
Unlike Greece too, US is in control of its currency.

The US T Bills and bonds are as good as before except that the foreign investors will suffer from foreign exchange losses due to a weaker US dollar. To US investors, they will face inflation due to weaker US dollar.

I think S&P is paiseh about not doing anything in downgrading the toxic CDO in 2008. So, this time round, it bravely downgrades US rating.